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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #287 on: September 08, 2023, 06:42:34 PM »
Ah, a GRAY sweater. Thank you, Mr. Smith  Thumb1: (And could you please give us a source for this detail?)

So! Patrolman Walker sees a guy in a gray sweater running into the library. Perhaps he doesn't even get a good enough look of the top to see that it's a sweater rather than a shirt. Perhaps he just sees: gray top. But even if he does recognize it as a sweater, he understands it's very easy for a gray sweater under a jacket to have been confused by a witness for a white shirt. Well within the normal margin of error. Coupled with the fact of his running in the vicinity of the crime scene, it makes perfect sense for Patrolman Walker to think 'This must be our guy' and to excitedly put out a confident radio dispatch, "He's in the library".

Now compare this with:

A report comes in of a guy in a brown shirt ducking into the Texas Theatre. Very unlikely for a brown shirt to be confused by a witness for a white shirt. Well outside the normal margin of error. It may make sense to send a cop or two to check the thing out, but it makes very little sense to hit the cinema with anything like the fervor with which the library was hit before this.

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By the way, we know that Patrolman Walker was on high alert in these manhunt minutes for one thing: a man in a white shirt. Makes sense: like other officers, he had heard the description broadcast, followed by the information that the jacket had been discarded and found. But we have extra confirmation that what he was on high alert for was: a man in white shirt. Because the NEXT man Patrolman Walker confronted was a guy he saw behind a fence. As it happened, the guy was just out walking his dog. But Patrolman Walker didn't know that at first. He saw this man as a suspect for one reason: he was wearing a WHITE SHIRT.

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Change one detail in the Brewer story and the response of the police to the call from the Texas Theatre makes sense: the man seen by Brewer had on a white shirt. The brown shirt was only 'remembered' later------------------after Mr. Oswald's arrest.

So the suspect could have stopped and bought a sweater after killing Tippit and put that on over his "white shirt?  Wow!   The police did not pursue him because of what they thought about his shirt/sweater.  The obvious point is that a report of a suspicious person that matches the general description of the suspect warrants a police response.  That is what happened at the library.  That is what happened at the TT.  There were undoubtedly lots of people wearing white, gray, and brown shirts walking around.  They were not stopped because of that.  The individuals that the police pursued were reported as acting suspiciously.  Running into a library for no apparent reason.  Trying to avoid the police and then sneaking into the TT without buying a ticket.

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #288 on: September 08, 2023, 06:43:36 PM »
An interesting dispatch:

"There is nothing to this Marsalis [library] here. Let's go back up to the place and work to north Jefferson. We got a witness that saw him shed his jacket and check towards Tyler."

Who was this witness?

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #289 on: September 08, 2023, 06:49:12 PM »
So the suspect could have stopped and bought a sweater after killing Tippit and put that on over his "white shirt?

Yikes, you really are flailing here................

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Wow!   The police did not pursue him because of what they thought about his shirt/sweater.  The obvious point is that a report of a suspicious person that matches the general description of the suspect warrants a police response.

"matches the general description", lol

A man in a brown shirt does not fit the description of a man in a white shirt.

Your increasingly desperate gaslighting is getting you precisely nowhere, Mr. Smith!

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Re: Time for Truth
« Reply #290 on: September 08, 2023, 06:53:46 PM »
Yikes, you really are flailing here................

"matches the general description", lol

A man in a brown shirt does not fit the description of a man in a white shirt.

Your increasingly desperate gaslighting is getting you precisely nowhere, Mr. Smith!

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Simple question.  Should the police have responded to the report of a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the crime scene or not?  Particularly when the person meets the general description of a slender, white male. 

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« Reply #291 on: September 08, 2023, 07:11:13 PM »
Simple question.  Should the police have responded to the report of a person acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the crime scene or not?  Particularly when the person meets the general description of a slender, white male.

Should the police have responded to the report of a person, who didn't plausibly match the clothing description of the suspect, acting suspiciously in the vicinity of the crime scene?

Fair question! To which the answer is: Yes, absolutely, they should have sent a couple of officers to check it out. There was a chance the man in the brown shirt might be somehow involved.

That would have been a rational and proportional response to a report that was interesting, but not nearly as promising as the library report.

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« Reply #292 on: September 08, 2023, 07:13:32 PM »
Why are you going down this rabbit hole again after recently being humiliated by Bill and others on this topic?

Now I know for sure that your imagination is in full overdrive, again....  :D :D

And Roberts wasn't the only person to confirm that Oswald was wearing a jacket.  Multiple witnesses at the Tippit shooting who later ID Oswald as the shooter indicated that he was wearing a jacket.

Hilarious... More circular "logic"....

If Oswald didn't leave the roominghouse wearing a jacket, then he couldn't have been the man those "multiple witnesses" saw and thus probably mistakenly identified in highly questionable line ups.

What mind boggling logic.  You claimed that Roberts was the "only" person to see Oswald was wearing a jacket.  When it is pointed out that this is false because other witnesses also reported him wearing a jacket you somehow twist this to mean he wasn't wearing a jacket!  Astounding in its lunacy. 

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« Reply #293 on: September 08, 2023, 07:18:32 PM »
"a jacket", lol

“Oswald did not have a jacket when he came in to the house and I don’t recall what type of clothing he was wearing. Oswald went to his room and was only there a few minutes before coming out. I noticed he had a jacket he was putting on. I recall the jacket was a dark color"

(signed affidavit of Mrs. Earlene Roberts of Dec 5, 1963 for the Warren Commission)

If the sole witness who saw Mr. Oswald leave the rooming house was correct in her recollection that he left wearing a dark jacket, then he may have simply gone to the Texas Theatre with it on and taken it off inside before his arrest.

If the cops found this jacket afterwards, the very last thing they would have wanted to do would be to reveal the fact. That would have destroyed the entire narrative that had been constructed for Officer Tippit's murder.