The Testimony of J.C. White ...Patrolman

[Jerry Freeman]

 Perhaps an aerial view looking east might help--

Mr. BALL. First time you saw the President's car it was going underneath?
Mr. WHITE. Yes, sir.
Mr. BALL. What did you do after that?
Mr. WHITE. As soon as the train passed I went over and on the northwest side of the Depository Building. 

How could White have seen the president's car 'going underneath' if ---1. He was on the west side of the underpass and 2. If there was a train going by?
The train array must be 50 or 60 ft across and the limo was absolutely gassing it by the time it reached the west side ..so we are talking about 5-10 seconds not 5-10 minutes for a train to pass by.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

White even marked his position on exhibit A.


https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh21/html/WH_Vol21_0376b.htm

And I believe that Holland said that White was right behind him the last time he looked, just before the motorcade arrived in Dealey Plaza.

Foster was behind Holland -- standing on a railways cabinet.



The cabinet was similar to this cabinet -- but closer to the camera here -- ie out of frame.

[Jerry Freeman]

The tracks have been reconfigured but the width of the bridge has remained constant.

The vehicles around should give an idea of the area.

[Charles Collins]

Foster was behind Holland -- standing on a railways cabinet.



The cabinet was similar to this cabinet -- but closer to the camera here -- ie out of frame.

Mr. HOLLAND - Well, as well as I remember, one police officer was standing right behind me, or pretty close behind me.
Mr. STERN - Put a "2" where you believe he was standing.
Mr. HOLLAND - He was standing in close enough so that he could see, but he could also see the people, and the other policeman, I think, unless he left immediately before this happened--see, when they turned there, I didn't turn around and look back any more, but the last time I saw this policeman he was standing over here on this side, about [indicating].
Mr. STERN - Standing almost directly behind you?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes.
Mr. STERN - But, on the other side of the overpass, facing west?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes; all this way, across the tracks. See, these are all railroad tracks, and he was standing over here on this side immediately before this motorcade turned this. Now, after they turned, I don't know, but--because I was watching them.
Mr. STERN - Yes. Would you put a "3" where you believe he was standing and can you indicate on there where you believe the other 12 to 15 or 16 people were who were on the Overpass at this time.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Mr. HOLLAND - Well, as well as I remember, one police officer was standing right behind me, or pretty close behind me.
Mr. STERN - Put a "2" where you believe he was standing.
Mr. HOLLAND - He was standing in close enough so that he could see, but he could also see the people, and the other policeman, I think, unless he left immediately before this happened--see, when they turned there, I didn't turn around and look back any more, but the last time I saw this policeman he was standing over here on this side, about [indicating].
Mr. STERN - Standing almost directly behind you?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes.
Mr. STERN - But, on the other side of the overpass, facing west?
Mr. HOLLAND - Yes; all this way, across the tracks. See, these are all railroad tracks, and he was standing over here on this side immediately before this motorcade turned this. Now, after they turned, I don't know, but--because I was watching them.
Mr. STERN - Yes. Would you put a "3" where you believe he was standing and can you indicate on there where you believe the other 12 to 15 or 16 people were who were on the Overpass at this time.

Where did Holland mark the 3?

[Charles Collins]

Where did Holland mark the 3?

I was hoping you would be curious enough to look this up yourself.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

I was hoping you would be curious enough to look this up yourself.

Its hard to tell -- it looks like there is a 3 over the center of Main, west side.