A Rock Solid Alibi.....

[Walt Cakebread]

So is it reasonably  to conclude that it was NOT probable that Weitzman could have seen even a portion of the rifle while looking under the flat (pallet)?

If so then Weitzman is exaggerating similar to Roger Craig or Weitzman saw the rifle originally in a different place than where Boone claims to have first seen it.

Seems to be a choice as to whom
Is the more credible witness, Weitzman or Boone?

Since Weitzman seems to have had some problem with depression later in his life, should this be considered as a sign he saw the rifle moved and remained silent about it? Or is it because he had exaggerated about actually seeing the rifle at the DAME time as Boone did?

This is just one example why  I’m still having trouble deciding what is true and what is not after 20 years of following the discussions about the JFK assassination.

So is it reasonably  to conclude that it was NOT probable that Weitzman could have seen even a portion of the rifle while looking under the flat (pallet)?

No.....You are confused Zeon.     Weitzman DID see the rifle beneath the pallet.... BUT, if the rifle had been standing on it's magazine as it is depicted in the official DPD in situ photo then he could not have seen the rifle while he was down on the floor and shining his flashlight beneath the pallet.  He could not have seen the rifle as it is depicted in the DPD in situ photo because there was at least one box that was sitting in the floor and that box blocked his line of sight  to the place where the rifle is depicted in the official DPD photo.

I hope that explanation clears it up for you.....

Weitzman seems to have had some problem with depression later in his life, should this be considered as a sign he saw the rifle moved and remained silent about it?

Very probable, Zeon.... Weitzman knew that Lee Oswald had been murdered while in the custody of the DPD...And he knew that the DPD had altered evidence, and created false evidence to make Lee appear to be guilty. Weitzman knew that the DPD was corrupt and the WC had twisted his story ..... That had to weigh heavy on his mind as he tried to live a normal life.  Roger Craig also had mental problems for the same reasons.

[Zeon Mason]

Walt, if you are correct, then Boone has to be considered as a suspect witness.

Is there verification of Boones 1:22 time stamp for the finding a rifle or is it entirely based on on Boone himself declaring  HIS watch read 1:22?

[Walt Cakebread]

Walt, if you are correct, then Boone has to be considered as a suspect witness.

Is there verification of Boones 1:22 time stamp for the finding a rifle or is it entirely based on on Boone himself declaring  HIS watch read 1:22?

Boone was another one of the low ranking law officers ( like Weitzman and Craig) who was cajoled and muscled into going along with the Dallas Law enforcement hierarchy.  Boone, Weitzman, and Craig were victims of the conspirators.... 

When your paycheck ( and possibly your life ) hangs in the balance you are not inclined to argue with those in authority.

As the old adage says...When they've got you by the gonads....your heart and mind will rapidly follow......

P.S...... Howard Brennan was another victim of the corrupt law enforcement officials.... Brennan entered the case as an innocent spectator who simply wanted to be a good citizen and help the police catch the guilty culprits....   Little did he know that he would have been far better off to simply walk away.

[Richard Smith]

Boone was another one of the low ranking law officers ( like Weitzman and Craig) who was cajoled and muscled into going along with the Dallas Law enforcement hierarchy.  Boone, Weitzman, and Craig were victims of the conspirators.... 

When your paycheck ( and possibly your life ) hangs in the balance you are not inclined to argue with those in authority.

As the old adage says...When they've got you by the gonads....your heart and mind will rapidly follow......

P.S...... Howard Brennan was another victim of the corrupt law enforcement officials.... Brennan entered the case as an innocent spectator who simply wanted to be a good citizen and help the police catch the guilty culprits....   Little did he know that he would have been far better off to simply walk away.

The plot grows bigger and bigger.  If this was a plot to frame Oswald, why hide the rifle at all?  Why not just drop it by the window in plain sight?  Why stage a fake discovery of the rifle hidden under some boxes etc?  Like the 'bus rider" to nowhere that seems completely pointless and even counterproductive as part of a conspiracy plan.  Presumably they want the rifle found and the sooner the better but they engage in this charade.  Amazing.

[Walt Cakebread]

The plot grows bigger and bigger.  If this was a plot to frame Oswald, why hide the rifle at all?  Why not just drop it by the window in plain sight?  Why stage a fake discovery of the rifle hidden under some boxes etc?  Like the 'bus rider" to nowhere that seems completely pointless and even counterproductive as part of a conspiracy plan.  Presumably they want the rifle found and the sooner the better but they engage in this charade.  Amazing.

It's very clear that this case is waaaaaaay beyond your limited ability to comprehend and understand.

There was two plays being played out....Lee was playing the role that he'd played at Walker's.   He was involved in making it appear that he had shot at JFK but missed and was fleeing to Cuba seeking asylum.

The rifle was hidden to allow him time to get out of the country.   He thought that the cops wouldn't get too excited about someone shooting at JFK ( He knew that JFK was not liked by many at the DPD) and probably wouldn't find the rifle for days.  THAT'S the reason the rifle was hidden....

Lee didn't know that he'd been double crossed and set up as the patsy by the killers.   There were no shots fired from the TSBD that day....  I know that you think the shells and the rifle constitute proof that Lee Oswald shot and killed JFK from that sixth floor window, but if you extract your head you'd realize that the spent shells and rifle were nothing but stage props.

P.S. If you could extract your head and see that Lee Oswald was in the 1st floor lunchroom at 12:27 when Jarman and Norman walked by the room then MAYBE you'd start to see the light.

[Richard Smith]

It's very clear that this case is waaaaaaay beyond your limited ability to comprehend and understand.

There was two plays being played out....Lee was playing the role that he'd played at Walker's.   He was involved in making it appear that he had shot at JFK but missed and was fleeing to Cuba seeking asylum.

The rifle was hidden to allow him time to get out of the country.   He thought that the cops wouldn't get too excited about someone shooting at JFK ( He knew that JFK was not liked by many at the DPD) and probably wouldn't find the rifle for days.  THAT'S the reason the rifle was hidden....

Lee didn't know that he'd been double crossed and set up as the patsy by the killers.   There were no shots fired from the TSBD that day....  I know that you think the shells and the rifle constitute proof that Lee Oswald shot and killed JFK from that sixth floor window, but if you extract your head you'd realize that the spent shells and rifle were nothing but stage props.

P.S. If you could extract your head and see that Lee Oswald was in the 1st floor lunchroom at 12:27 when Jarman and Norman walked by the room then MAYBE you'd start to see the light.

HA HA HA.  An instant classic.  Where even to start?   Lee was playing the role of the assassin by hanging out in the lunchroom according to you?  Where he could easily have been seen instead of just staying on the 6th floor.  Wow.  And if someone was double crossing him to frame him for the crime and wanted him to get caught, then again, WHY HIDE THE RIFLE?  You have provided an explanation (albeit completely idiotic) as to why they would hide the rifle to buy him some time, but they actually want him to get caught in your double cross fantasy.   No shots fired?  What were they hearing on the 5th floor?  Why stage a shooting scene on the 6th floor but assassinate JFK from some other location with a different rifle necessitating access to the body and evidence? 

[Walt Cakebread]

HA HA HA.  An instant classic.  Where even to start?   Lee was playing the role of the assassin by hanging out in the lunchroom according to you?  Where he could easily have been seen instead of just staying on the 6th floor.  Wow.  And if someone was double crossing him to frame him for the crime and wanted him to get caught, then again, WHY HIDE THE RIFLE?  You have provided an explanation (albeit completely idiotic) as to why they would hide the rifle to buy him some time, but they actually want him to get caught in your double cross fantasy.   No shots fired?  What were they hearing on the 5th floor?  Why stage a shooting scene on the 6th floor but assassinate JFK from some other location with a different rifle necessitating access to the body and evidence?

As I told you...This case is waaaaaay beyond your abilities.....