A Rock Solid Alibi.....

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #532 on: August 29, 2022, 05:37:28 PM »

Weitzman exhibit E  provides a better perspective for verifying that Weitzman couldn't have seen the rifle as it is depicted in the official DPD in situ photo.



In the official DPD photo the rifle is shown standing on it's magazine, and it is one row of boxes north of the pallet.  Those boxes are sitting on the floor and they would have blocked Weitzman's line of sight to the rifle if it had been sitting as depicted in the official DPD photo.

Notice the boxes that are sitting on the floor to the east ( muzzle end) of the rifle .  Those boxes would have been between Seymour Weitzman  and the rifle if that rifle had been in the location shown in the official DPD in situ photo.

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #533 on: September 01, 2022, 03:13:25 PM »
Is there a full moon or something?  How do you get a "rock solid alibi" by putting yourself in the location from which the crime was committed (i.e. TSBD)?  And a suspect doesn't get an alibi from claiming to see others.  They get an alibi when some neutral witness can put the suspect at a different location at the time the crime was committed.  Oswald claiming to see someone in the lunchroom who didn't see him doesn't do that.  Obviously, Oswald knows his coworkers, who they hung out with, and what they look like from weeks of working in the building.  It wouldn't take Nostradamus to come up with that tale.  He has no alibi. 

No person can reasonably believe that LHO, a person with a well-documented history of interest in politics, who checked out and read JFK's book from the library, wouldn't so much as go outside to watch the motorcade go by his workplace if he was innocent.  If he was part of some conspiracy that involved framing him for the crime, the conspirators wouldn't risk allowing him to be in the lunchroom where he might be seen by someone at the time of the crime.

Apparently some folks believe that the word "alibi" means a contrive story in an attempt to prove that they were not the culprit in a crime.

alibi----a form of defense by which an accused person attempts to show that he was elsewhere when the crime was committed.

The "investigators" said that JFK had been shot from a sixth floor window of the TSBD at 12:30 

Lee Oswald said that he was in the 1st floor lunch room at the time that he saw Junior, and Shorty walk by that lunchroom at 12:27.  Therefore he couldn't have been on the sixth floor at 12:30.   

At the time Lee presented that alibi  in answering Captain Fritz question ..... There's no evidence that Lee even knew that the investigators were saying that the shots had been fired from the sixth floor.

 

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #534 on: September 01, 2022, 03:21:57 PM »
Apparently some folks believe that the word "alibi" means a contrive story in an attempt to prove that they were not the culprit in a crime.

alibi----a form of defense by which an accused person attempts to show that he was elsewhere when the crime was committed.

The "investigators" said that JFK had been shot from a sixth floor window of the TSBD at 12:30 

Lee Oswald said that he was in the 1st floor lunch room at the time that he saw Junior, and Shorty walk by that lunchroom at 12:27.  Therefore he couldn't have been on the sixth floor at 12:30.   

At the time Lee presented that alibi  in answering Captain Fritz question ..... There's no evidence that Lee even knew that the investigators were saying that the shots had been fired from the sixth floor.

 

Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

Online Charles Collins

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #535 on: September 01, 2022, 03:58:34 PM »
Where specifically is it on the first floor that Eddie Piper said he went during the shots. He testified that he went to where they make coffee to see what time it was. Where exactly is this area located on the first floor?

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #536 on: September 01, 2022, 04:50:36 PM »
Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.

A far better story would be that he was on the 6th floor where nobody saw him either, right?

His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None. Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle.   

You expect him to provide an explanation when he denies that he owns a rifle? Now that's funny   :D

Conclusion:   IDIOT
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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #537 on: September 01, 2022, 10:32:05 PM »
Where specifically is it on the first floor that Eddie Piper said he went during the shots. He testified that he went to where they make coffee to see what time it was. Where exactly is this area located on the first floor?


Okay, I found out where this area is located by reading the WC testimony of Troy Eugene West. It is about the middle of the west wall of the first floor. It is where the wrapping machine that West used to wrap the packages is located.

So, I have another question for anyone who subscribes to the idea that LHO was in the domino room when the shots were fired.

In order to get to the second floor break room where Truly and Baker encountered him, LHO would have had to leave the domino room, and walk across the first floor to the stairs. This would have had to occur immediately after the shots were fired in order for the timing to work out. However, both Eddie Piper and Troy Eugene West were on the first floor, but neither one saw LHO do this trek across the first floor at that time. West was at his work station, and Piper was on his way toward West’s work station. Is there some legitimate reason why these two men wouldn’t have seen LHO walking across the first floor at this time? Just asking…

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Re: A Rock Solid Alibi.....
« Reply #538 on: September 01, 2022, 10:45:19 PM »
Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?  LOL.   Just making up a flimsy story that he was somewhere else is not an alibi.  No one saw him there.  There was no "corroboration" (a word CTers love).  Oswald has no alibi.  He has a baseless claim that can be judged against the evidence left on the 6th floor including his rifle, fired bullet casings from his rifle, and his prints on the SN boxes.  His explanation for his rifle being found on the 6th floor?  None.  Instead he lies and denies owning any rifle. 

Conclusion:  GUILTY.

Don't you think Oswald might know the time and place of the assassination if he was the assassin?

But he wasn't the assassin.....When Fritz asked him where he was when the president passed by.  He said that he was in he 1st floor lunchroom when JFK passed by the TSBD.  And just a couple of minutes prior to JFK passing by he saw Junior Jarman and Harold Norman walk by the lunchroom as he sat there eating his lunch.