Camera Lady

[Charles Collins]

Charles, I cant do anything with the YouTube video. I believe Denis Moricet has done some work on her identification.

I did try the stacking technique to Zapruder frames showing the Woodward group, stacking the best 32 frames showing the space between Camera Lady and the woman to her right. Even without stacking it is obvious there is a dark something that could be a camera between the women’s heads. It is too small to be a purse useful for blocking the sun. It does look to me she is holding a camera in Altgens, possibly a Kodak Instamatic 100, introduced in 1963.

Thanks James, your thoughts are exactly what I was thinking initially. But after considering what was said by Gary Mack, I have take another look and believe that Gary might be correct. Please take a look at this GIF that I created:





I added an outline of what appears just might be a black purse. It appears to be slightly blocking a small portion of the right side of the other lady's head. And I think the purse might be being held to the right side of the "camera lady's" head in order to block the sun. The difference in the shades of "color" in the black and white photo between the purse and the "camera lady's" hair appears more obvious to me now that I have this idea in mind.

P.S.  I did make an error on the top left of my outline. That corner should be cut off to match the different shades between the purse and her hair.

[James Hackerott]

Yes Garry Mack also told me that after looking at a very good copy of Altgen's 6 he had at the 6th floor museum that he could see that the woman was holding her "hand bag" up to her face to shield her eyes from the sun.

Lady "F" in the lineup

Robin, would you consider that in the 4.8 seconds from Z167 to Z255 woman C (black hair) in your graphic could squeeze between woman E and F (camera woman)? Z167 being the last frame we can see she is still standing next to the hard hat man B.

[Charles Collins]

Another thought that has occurred to me is that a purse of that size would not be a first choice (for most of us) as a sunshield to be held like that for much time. And since JFK had apparently been hit by a bullet no more that thirty feet in front of those ladies, that this lady had already realized it by the time Altgens took the photo. And that she might have turned her head and put the purse up there to block her view because she just couldn't stand to watch this scene. After all, the photo is only an instant in time. And we lost sight of these ladies (in the Zapruder film) well before JFK was apparently hit. However, we can see them in Willis' photo taken about Z196.




And I do not see any sign of a black purse held up to shield the sun...

[Steve Barber]

It definitely appears to me to be a camera.

And it very well could be.  I see nothing that resembles a purse in her hands, but she definitely has something in her hands.  Also, for someone to shield the sun from their eyes, they would normally put their hands over their eyes.  A purse would be rather awkward to hold onto, judging from their size at that time.  On top of this, Gary, being the egomaniac that he was, has been proved wrong regarding his observations more times than not.  For example, the acoustics, Badge Man, the identity of the woman on the grass between the Newman's and the Stemmons Freeway sign.  He swore that her name is was Cheryl McKinnon.  In 2013, the real identity came to light and her name is Doris Mumford.  She was identified by her daughter Karen, who provided proof with many photographs of her mother and you can clearly see that it is Doris Muford, not Cheryl McKinnon.  However, in typical Gary Mack form, he refused to admit he was wrong, just like he did with the other three observations by him.  I knew Gary very personally.  He was a snake in the grass.

[Charles Collins]

Another item that I have noticed (for what it is worth) is the presence of what appears to be two purses (one light colored and one appearing to be black) sitting on the sidewalk, behind the camera lady, and in her shadow. We can see them in the Zapruder film. Here they are in a crop of Z151 (I have drawn an arrow to point them out):

[Steve Barber]

Another item that I have noticed (for what it is worth) is the presence of what appears to be two purses (one light colored and one appearing to be black) sitting on the sidewalk, behind the camera lady, and in her shadow. We can see them in the Zapruder film. Here they are in a crop of Z151 (I have drawn an arrow to point them out):

 Agreed! 

[Rick Plant]

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Nice find! I would say the woman in the video looks very similar to Donaldson. If you notice, the chin and nose looks pretty much the same in both the photo and video. The photo was taken 5 years earlier, so her hair doesn't appear as short in the footage. If we could get a close up of a video still and compare it with the photo we could make a better identification.