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Offline James Hackerott

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Re: Camera Lady
« Reply #35 on: April 03, 2022, 03:56:49 AM »
John Martin’s film contribution to the DCA film in Robert Groden’s Assassination Films is of poor quality. Along with fuzzy images the frames are under exposed. I did ask to see the Sixth Floor Museums Reading Room version of the DCA film but, although they have original film box, the Martin images are essentially black! Groden seems to have done a good job giving us what we do have.

In one scene, from S Elm he filmed the N pergola grassy area and included several witnesses congregated near the Thornton sign and street light. This group seems to include at least some of the “Woodward Group” (source unknown). One woman in a dark clothing (3) is holding a purse at waist level and (in early frames) seems to have her hand to her face to shield the sun. I made this animation to study this woman.

The animation proves that lady (3) is not the source of the sun shielding arm/hand. There is someone (4) mostly hidden behind (2) and (3). As (4) shifts rightward during the short animation the raised arm is obscured by the head of (3). For a few frames (4)’s legs are visible shifting rightward between the legs of (3).

Anyway, this animation might be of interest to some.



Online Charles Collins

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Re: Camera Lady
« Reply #36 on: April 03, 2022, 01:18:26 PM »
John Martin’s film contribution to the DCA film in Robert Groden’s Assassination Films is of poor quality. Along with fuzzy images the frames are under exposed. I did ask to see the Sixth Floor Museums Reading Room version of the DCA film but, although they have original film box, the Martin images are essentially black! Groden seems to have done a good job giving us what we do have.

In one scene, from S Elm he filmed the N pergola grassy area and included several witnesses congregated near the Thornton sign and street light. This group seems to include at least some of the “Woodward Group” (source unknown). One woman in a dark clothing (3) is holding a purse at waist level and (in early frames) seems to have her hand to her face to shield the sun. I made this animation to study this woman.

The animation proves that lady (3) is not the source of the sun shielding arm/hand. There is someone (4) mostly hidden behind (2) and (3). As (4) shifts rightward during the short animation the raised arm is obscured by the head of (3). For a few frames (4)’s legs are visible shifting rightward between the legs of (3).

Anyway, this animation might be of interest to some.



Well done James, thanks!

Offline Duncan MacRae

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Re: Camera Lady
« Reply #37 on: April 03, 2022, 03:50:54 PM »
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Quote from: James Hackerott on Today at 03:56:49 AM

 "One woman in a dark clothing (3) is holding a purse at waist"

Or could it be a Camera case?  :-\



Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Camera Lady
« Reply #38 on: April 05, 2022, 12:10:31 AM »
This film must have been captured by two different cameras because there is also  black and white footage of this woman in the same position--unless this film is the black and white footage (it looks like color footage in this frame) and this woman is actually in a button down shirt with rolled up sleeves and blue jeans.  I don't know who took the film(s), nor can I find the footage, but it has appeared in many documentaries over the years.

Yeah possibly or they could have colorized one copy like they do for some film footage. I'll see if I can find anything on who took the footage.