Truly's False Roll

[Dan O'meara]

These guys didn't punch a time clock. There were no school type bells that rang to signal breaks and lunches. It was reportedly normal for the guys to break for lunch at about 11:50 to wash up. I would expect that Piper heard the guys on the elevators as they played their race to the first floor game. And that he therefore knew that it was about time to break and wash up for lunch.

Jarman said he saw LHO go up. Givens said he saw LHO on the sixth floor. Both said it was before noon.

You, on the other hand, cling to your ad hoc assumption that Piper waited until it was actually noon.      Go ahead and believe that if you want to. I really don't care.

Two of the employees I quoted stated that they broke for lunch at 12 but you know better.

The question is - when did the exchange between Oswald and Piper take place?

[Charles Collins]

Two of the employees I quoted stated that they broke for lunch at 12 but you know better.

The question is - when did the exchange between Oswald and Piper take place?

I wasn't there and neither were you. So any answer, by either one of us, to your "question" is only a guess.

A theory that appears plausible to me is that Shelly came down shortly before the work crew did. LHO probably noticed Shelly and what time it was and told Piper that he was going up to lunch. LHO probably took the elevator back up to the sixth floor. This meant that both elevators were on the sixth floor for the race. Just after the race started, LHO hollered for them to close the gates when they got off. Givens saw LHO on the sixth floor when he came back up to get his cigarettes. BRW came up after that and ate his lunch on the sixth floor while LHO kept quiet and out of sight.

But I am pretty sure that you will provide very shortly a conflicting account to this theory.

[Jerry Freeman]

The only thing convoluted is how one has to twist selected and isolated testimony to make-believe BRW ate his lunch in the sniper's nest. A little later BRW diagrams the area where he ate his lunch.

One window away from the snipers nest then....woopieshit! Let's split hairs and then split the ends.
BRW sat right next to the snipers nest and then became deaf

Apparently Mr Collins did not read my link to the Charles Givens thread which demonstrated to great lengths that he lied and that David Belin made sure his lies were documented as witness/evidence that Oswald was on the 6th floor at noon.
Here it is again---  https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1960.msg52976.html#msg52976

[Charles Collins]

One window away from the snipers nest then....woopieshit! Let's split hairs and then split the ends.
BRW sat right next to the snipers nest and then became deaf

Apparently Mr Collins did not read my link to the Charles Givens thread which demonstrated to great lengths that he lied and that David Belin made sure his lies were documented as witness/evidence that Oswald was on the 6th floor at noon.
Here it is again---  https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,1960.msg52976.html#msg52976

Two windows down from the sniper's nest (about 35-feet). That is not right next to it. Keeping quiet enough to be undetected, and out of sight, would not be difficult under those circumstances.

I read your thread when you posted it earlier. And I re-read it again just now. I agree with the several people who posted counter opinions.

[Jerry Freeman]

Two windows down from the sniper's nest (about 35-feet). That is not right next to it. Keeping quiet enough to be undetected, and out of sight, would not be difficult under those circumstances.

Who had to keep quiet...the sniper or BRW? So then if Williams had to keep quiet...then he lied. And you claim he didn't. Two windows down is not 35 ft.

I read your thread when you posted it earlier. And I re-read it again just now. I agree with the several people who posted counter opinions.

Of course you do.
You read 200 posts that quickly? A true blue Myttoneer Bullcrap.

[Charles Collins]

Who had to keep quiet...the sniper or BRW? So then if Williams had to keep quiet...then he lied. And you claim he didn't. Two windows down is not 35 ft.
Of course you do.
You read 200 posts that quickly? A true blue Myttoneer Bullcrap.

The sniper would have needed to be quiet.

 The sets of windows are about 14-feet apart (on center) from each other. So, just say 28-feet for the distance from the center of the first set to the center of the third set. But the box that the sniper sat on was aligned with the east side of the first set of windows (not the center). Therefore, add a little over 3-feet to account for the width of that window. This totals a little over 31-feet. I inadvertently calculated from the corner the first time and came up with the 35- feet, my mistake.

Oh, and there are only 22 posts in the thread you linked to (not 200).

[Charles Collins]

Giving BRW a perfect view to nothing behind the grimy window panes hit by bright sunlight.

Makes perfect sense to a Nutter.

 

Here's an Allen photo that shows the windows in question. It appears to me that the third set (where BRW said he ate his lunch) is not any dirtier than the closed window in the sniper's nest.




And here's a photo showing a fire truck, etc. on the street through that closed window in the sniper's nest.




Your claim that he could see nothing doesn't hold up to the real world facts.