Not a conspiracy theory.....

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2022, 11:09:28 PM »
I've highlighted some of this text, Mr Beck, because there's a curious similarity between this and the wording of Agent Bookhout's first SOLO interrogation report:

OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca–cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. MR. TRULY was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building.

Both versions would seem to have Mr Oswald and Mr Truly in the lunchroom at the same time... and then a policeman comes in... and then the policeman leaves the lunchroom ALONE and continues his search, leaving Mr Oswald and Mr Truly still in the lunchroom

Now! From Mrs Jeraldean Reid's WC testimony:

Mr. Belin.
Were there any men in the lunchroom when you left there?
Mrs. Reid.
I can't, I don't, remember that.
Mr. Belin.
All right.
Mrs. Reid.
I can't remember the time they left.


Has she just let something slip here? She confirms that there were men (plural) in the lunchroom during lunchbreak before the motorcade. One wonders who they could have been......... Was Mr Joe Molina one of them? Apart from him, I can't think of anyone other than Mr Oswald or Mr Truly............

Could it possibly be that there WAS a second-floor lunchroom incident but that it happened BEFORE the assassination-----------and was seen by Ms Reid and others? A police officer (not Motorcycle Officer Baker) or a 'police officer' was checking out----or pretending to check out----the building ahead of the motorcade's arrival?

Far-fetched? Well, consider this: Chief Jesse Curry told the press 11/23/63 that the first officer into the building "found Oswald among other persons in a lunchroom" (New York Times, 11/24/63)

This would go a long way towards aligning the Hosty draft interrogation report with the Bookhout solo report:

1. Visit to lunchroom before motorcade
2. Down to first floor
3. Goes outside to watch P. Parade--standing beside Mr Shelley

The weasel words in the Bookhout report that fudge the timeline would then be those in bold below:

OSWALD stated that on November 22, 1963, at the time of the search of the Texas School Book Depository building by Dallas police officers, he was on the second floor of said building, having just purchased a Coca–cola from the soft-drink machine, at which time a police officer came into the room with pistol drawn and asked him if he worked there. MR. TRULY was present and verified that he was an employee and the police officer thereafter left the room and continued through the building.

"At the time of the search..." - this is a mighty odd way of saying "Just after the shooting". I mean, the post-assassination search took a long time. The wording here arguably suggests a search that took place inside a much more defined period of time.............

Just so we've all got this straight...

Baker goes into the 2nd floor lunchroom
There are two men he's never seen before eating lunch.
Baker pulls his gun on one of them
The other says "It's OK, he's with me."
So Baker leaves.

Even for you this is out there.  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2022, 11:12:14 PM »
Just so we've all got this straight...

Baker goes into the 2nd floor lunchroom
There are two men he's never seen before eating lunch.
Baker pulls his gun on one of them
The other says "It's OK, he's with me."
So Baker leaves.

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Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #23 on: February 08, 2022, 12:03:04 AM »
No, Mr O'Meara, you haven't got this straight. Have a little nap and then try again  Thumb1:

You forgot to tell me where I was going wrong with your latest theory.

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #24 on: February 08, 2022, 12:04:39 AM »
You forgot to tell me where I was going wrong with your latest theory.

Your first line is baloney. Looks like you didn't feel the need to read what I wrote properly. Ho hum

Offline Dan O'meara

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #25 on: February 08, 2022, 12:29:16 AM »
Your first line is baloney. Looks like you didn't feel the need to read what I wrote properly. Ho hum

You wrote:

"Both versions would seem to have Mr Oswald and Mr Truly in the lunchroom at the same time... and then a policeman comes in... and then the policeman leaves the lunchroom ALONE and continues his search, leaving Mr Oswald and Mr Truly still in the lunchroom."

I wrote:

"Baker goes into the 2nd floor lunchroom
There are two men he's never seen before eating lunch.



Please explain to us all how this is different.  Thumb1:

Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #26 on: February 08, 2022, 02:59:27 AM »
You wrote:

"Both versions would seem to have Mr Oswald and Mr Truly in the lunchroom at the same time... and then a policeman comes in... and then the policeman leaves the lunchroom ALONE and continues his search, leaving Mr Oswald and Mr Truly still in the lunchroom."

I wrote:

"Baker goes into the 2nd floor lunchroom
There are two men he's never seen before eating lunch.



Please explain to us all how this is different.  Thumb1:

I write: "A police officer (not Motorcycle Officer Baker)"
You read this as: Baker

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Not a conspiracy theory.....
« Reply #27 on: February 09, 2022, 09:05:14 AM »
Did we ever get a count of witnesses in the lobby who DID see Truly hook up with Baker?

Not a single one! Which is most curious considering Officer Baker's affidavit account-------------------



Who exactly were the "several people standing around" and how on earth did none of them remember the officer asking them where the stairs were?

There is a simple answer: these several people standing around were not in the lobby but out on the landing, and Mr Oswald was one of them

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