Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure

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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #35 on: March 06, 2018, 09:27:55 PM »
You are not understanding the point.  No one is debating whether Mooney thought the reason for the elevator not to function was because the power was out.  That was his conclusion.

And we should prefer Richard Smith's conclusion, because . . . ?

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #36 on: March 06, 2018, 09:29:42 PM »
So a few minutes after the assassination and presumably just a few seconds after the two ladies had left the elevator after arriving at their floor, Mooney's elevator picks this completely random exact point in time to suddenly stop working, geez what are the chances?

The same as the chances of any power outage happening at any particular time.

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Conclusion.

1. For some unspecified reason the conspirators decided to turn off the elevator many minutes after the assassination.
2. Mooney didn't know how to operate the west elevator which had double gates.

False dichotomy.

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #37 on: March 06, 2018, 09:32:56 PM »
Sure, it could have been any one of a thousand questions BELIN could have asked, but on the 22nd Roy Truly who is essentially the Texas School Book Depository Expert with decades of experience in that building....


.....confirms there were elevators operating just after the assassination.

Is that somehow supposed to tell you anything about whether the elevators had power when Mooney and Adams tried them?

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #38 on: March 06, 2018, 09:34:36 PM »
(e.g. Sawyer takes the passenger elevator up and down around 12:36 with no problem).

How do you know this was around 12:36?

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #39 on: March 06, 2018, 09:36:18 PM »
I don't follow what you are now babbling about.  Adams was not on the passenger elevator.  She pushed the button to call it but it apparently did not show up.  She did attribute this to a power cut but there is no indication why.  For example, how long did she wait?  It's not compelling or conclusive absent more details.  Yes, a typo.  I will change that for you if it makes you feel better.  In the rush to search the building, police were likely not to be concerned with elevator etiquette and may have left gates open etc.

Did the passenger elevator have a gate?

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #40 on: March 06, 2018, 09:37:23 PM »
I've never seen a passenger elevator that did not at least have an indicator light showing when it's running or being called but now you invent a new desperate claim that she was too stupid to differentiate between the elevator being busy and being out of power.

The indicator lights coincidentally burned out at just that moment.  The odds must be astronomical...

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #41 on: March 07, 2018, 12:58:37 AM »
The same as the chances of any power outage happening at any particular time.

False dichotomy.



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The same as the chances of any power outage happening at any particular time.

Precisely.

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False dichotomy.

Geez what are the chances that whenever Iacoletti sees a possible two choices he'll present this tired old chestnut! Yawn!



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