Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure

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Offline Michael O'Brian

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #28 on: March 06, 2018, 12:32:32 PM »
Did Adams not know how to operate a passenger elevator?

Miss ADAMS - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.

Or a freight elevator?

Miss ADAMS - I tried to get the elevator to go to the fourth floor, but it wasn't operating, so the gentlemen lifted the elevator gate and we went out and ran up the stairs to the fourth floor.

And here is proof that someone was messing with the power switches, elevators not moving, phones not working, and torches required to search dues to no lights on the 6th, this is one hell of a guy our Oswald how in gods name did he accomplish so many tasks?

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #29 on: March 06, 2018, 01:38:22 PM »
Did Adams not know how to operate a passenger elevator?

Miss ADAMS - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.

Or a freight elevator?

Miss ADAMS - I tried to get the elevator to go to the fourth floor, but it wasn't operating, so the gentlemen lifted the elevator gate and we went out and ran up the stairs to the fourth floor.

Adams wasn't on the passenger elevator.  She pushed the button for it and it didn't come.  In the aftermath of the assassination the police were in the building using these very same elevators that you claim had no power (e.g. Sawyer takes the passenger elevator up and down around 12:36 with no problem).  There are multiple examples of both the passenger and freight elevators in operation at this time.  That means they had power.  Given the quirks of the freight elevators, it is plausible that gates were left opened, elevators were occupied or held by police on the upper floors, and some folks using them were unfamiliar with how they operated etc. 
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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #30 on: March 06, 2018, 02:48:55 PM »
Your short attention span has become a real problem to you. Repeat:

Miss ADAMS - Following that, I pushed the button for the passenger elevator, but the power had been cut off on the elevator, so I took the stairs to the second floor.

In the aftermath of the assassination the police were in the building using these very same elevators that you claim had no power.

I never claimed they had no power. That was reported by Mooney and Adams.

Given the quirks of the freight elevators, it is plausible that gates were left unopened, elevators were occupied or held by police on the upper floors, and some folks using them were unfamiliar with how they operated etc.

Unopened? I hope that's a typo or you have completely lost track of what's being discussed; Mooney was on that west elevator.

Your claims remain unsupported: Mooney said he used the controls and got to second. Adams worked in that building.

I don't follow what you are now babbling about.  Adams was not on the passenger elevator.  She pushed the button to call it but it apparently did not show up.  She did attribute this to a power cut but there is no indication why.  For example, how long did she wait?  It's not compelling or conclusive absent more details.  Yes, a typo.  I will change that for you if it makes you feel better.  In the rush to search the building, police were likely not to be concerned with elevator etiquette and may have left gates open etc.

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #31 on: March 06, 2018, 02:55:03 PM »
BELIN forgot to ask her.

   These WC Lock Steppers had in depth conversations/depositions with Witnesses BEFORE taking their WC Sworn Testimony. ANY question Not asked was AVOIDED because the WC Hack asking the question Knew the answer would Not aid their goal.
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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #32 on: March 06, 2018, 04:24:09 PM »
Absolutely, Royell. This is one of my favorites:

Mr. BELIN. Now, I did interview you approximately 2 weeks ago in Dallas, more or less?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. At that time what is the fact as to whether or not I went into extended questions and answers as contrasted with just asking you to tell me about certain areas as to what happened? I mean, I questioned you, of course, but was it more along the lines of just asking you to tell me what happened, or more along the lines of interrogation, the interrogation we are doing now?
Mr. DAY. Yes, sir.
Mr. BELIN. Which one?
Mr. DAY. Wait a minute now. Say that again. I am at a loss.

Pack of liars and fabricators.


                    The above you supplied is Hilarious. It's like Abbot & Costello doing, "Who's On First?". 2 Double Talkers "Lost In Translation".

Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #33 on: March 06, 2018, 09:24:17 PM »
Says the guy who just dishonestly quoted the language contained in the article even after it was pointed out to him that this information was not contained in the article cited.

I didn't dishonestly do anything.  I quoted Tom's post in a reply.  He's more credible than you because he does actual research.  All you do is insult people and make up strawman arguments.

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Re: Uninterrupted TSBD rooftop Hertz sign time display = no power failure
« Reply #34 on: March 06, 2018, 09:26:05 PM »
It is a plausible inference drawn from the facts.  This elevator is working fine.  It comes down to the first floor where Mooney and his passengers get on.  Mooney and his passengers take it to the second floor (thus the power must be working fine).  Once his passengers - the folks who work in the building and know how the elevator works get off - he suddenly can't get it to work.  It is an freight elevator in a warehouse.  It's entirely plausible that he couldn't operate it.

It's only "plausible" because that's the way you want it to be.  Mooney said "we had no more power on the elevator".  Deal with it.