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Online Michael Capasse

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« Reply #4487 on: July 27, 2026, 10:39:08 PM »
Ugh.  You suddenly "don't know what I'm arguing"?   You claimed that there was no conflict between Russia and Ukraine under Obama.  Who was our president in 2014 when Russia invaded Crimea (an important part of Ukraine)?  Here is a hint.  It was not Trump.  Riddle me this.  Trump, Putin, or Zelensky?  Which has suspended elections in his country with no end in sight?  Trump or Obama?  Who has provided military aid to Ukraine and who refused to do so for fear of Russia?

You think Trump is responsible for Ukraine's sudden insurgence?  BS:
Look to Z's advanced drone and anti-aircraft technology 

:D ...and who belittled and berated the President of the country being attacked?
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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #4488 on: July 28, 2026, 12:54:22 PM »
You think Trump is responsible for Ukraine's sudden insurgence?  BS:
Look to Z's advanced drone and anti-aircraft technology 

:D ...and who belittled and berated the President of the country being attacked?

You are concerned about words again and not actions?  The US has sent Ukraine billions of dollars in weapons and aid.  That includes under Trump.  So yes.  Without the weapons that Trump has sent, Ukraine would be toast.  In fact, that is a narrative supported by the Dems that the US must send weapons and aid or Ukraine will go under.   

Now did Russia invade Ukraine while Obama was president?  Yes or no.  Did Obama send Ukraine any weapons?  Yes or no.
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« Reply #4489 on: July 28, 2026, 02:07:19 PM »
You are concerned about words again and not actions?  The US has sent Ukraine billions of dollars in weapons and aid.  That includes under Trump.  So yes.  Without the weapons that Trump has sent, Ukraine would be toast.  In fact, that is a narrative supported by the Dems that the US must send weapons and aid or Ukraine will go under.   

moot point. 

Trump shamed the Ukraine president in front of the whole world. Then cut off aide (March 2025).
He turned it back on again with help from EU. Then in July he did it again for a week
EU stepped in as a go-between so he would not do it again - Now US sells to EU.


Now did Russia invade Ukraine while Obama was president?  Yes or no.  Did Obama send Ukraine any weapons?  Yes or no.

I understand the words - but your point is lost in the BS. Russia took Crimea in 2014 - There was no full scale war/invasion to do it.
US supplied limited aide at the time. Ukraine did not have a stable government. One President fled office  -  the next one resigned.
It was not the same Ukraine.   

Thumb1: Obama put sanctions on Russia it was all he could do at the time. Trump was the one that cut off aide. EU had to step in.
Europe along with Ukraine's advanced drone technology is getting it done. I can't say the same for the American President.
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« Reply #4490 on: Today at 03:04:28 AM »
moot point. 

Trump shamed the Ukraine president in front of the whole world. Then cut off aide (March 2025).
He turned it back on again with help from EU. Then in July he did it again for a week
EU stepped in as a go-between so he would not do it again - Now US sells to EU.

I understand the words - but your point is lost in the BS. Russia took Crimea in 2014 - There was no full scale war/invasion to do it.
US supplied limited aide at the time. Ukraine did not have a stable government. One President fled office  -  the next one resigned.
It was not the same Ukraine.   

Thumb1: Obama put sanctions on Russia it was all he could do at the time. Trump was the one that cut off aide. EU had to step in.
Europe along with Ukraine's advanced drone technology is getting it done. I can't say the same for the American President.

Bizarre logic.  There was no extended conflict in 2014 only because Obama refused to support Ukraine with weapons.  That forced them to capitulate.   In contrast, Trump has provided Ukraine with substantial amounts of weapons.  He has rightly been critical of the Biden policy of a blank check to be taken from the American taxpayers forever.   He has tried to encourage a settlement.  That means some tough love for Zelensky who was content to take millions from Biden with no oversight. 

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« Reply #4491 on: Today at 03:47:10 AM »
Bizarre logic.  There was no extended conflict in 2014 only because Obama refused to support Ukraine with weapons.  That forced them to capitulate.   In contrast, Trump has provided Ukraine with substantial amounts of weapons.  He has rightly been critical of the Biden policy of a blank check to be taken from the American taxpayers forever.   He has tried to encourage a settlement.  That means some tough love for Zelensky who was content to take millions from Biden with no oversight.

 ::) Trump cut aide off to Ukraine. Twice. He was in a bad mood. 
EU has since stepped up to protect against that from happening again.
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« Reply #4492 on: Today at 01:20:53 PM »
::) Trump cut aide off to Ukraine. Twice. He was in a bad mood. 
EU has since stepped up to protect against that from happening again.

LOL.  Obama never cut off any military aid to Ukraine only because he never provided any to begin with.  Trump has and continues to provide Ukraine with weapons.  He is just not giving them an open check to be paid for by Americans like Biden stupidly did.  It's hard to understand why anyone would criticize Trump's support of Ukraine while he is providing meaningful military support to defend themselves from Russia and ignore that Obama refused to do so.  It's an upside-down world that can only be explained by some type of TDS propaganda programming. 

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« Reply #4493 on: Today at 01:25:21 PM »
Fauci will go down in history as having done more harm to the US than any other person in history.  The only question now is whether he was just an incompetent looking for fame and wealth or whether he was complicit in the research that resulted in the pandemic and then covered it up to protect himself.  Of all the sickening and pathetic allegation at the hearing, perhaps none is more revealing than Fauci directing his staff to spend time soliciting cash awards on his behalf while millions were dying of the virus.  He made millions as a result.  His childlike enthusiasm for any acknowledgement in the press is almost sad.  A very sick and pathetic individual.  He must have spent decades toiling in obscurity waiting for his moment of fame.  Now he leaves the history books like a gangster refusing to answer questions while surrounded by his slick lawyers.

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