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Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #4080 on: Today at 12:24:47 PM »





I highlighted the only agreement I see.

I forgot to include the word "temporary" in my question to GROK.

Online John Corbett

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« Reply #4081 on: Today at 12:31:49 PM »
Donald Trump gave in to all of Iran's demands.

* Ships may use the Strait of Hormuz but must pay Iran two million dollars per ship. No freedom of the seas. And Trump agrees.

* America must withdraw our troops from our military bases in the Middle East. And Trump agrees.

* America must pay reparations for the damage our strikes caused to Iran. And Trump agrees.

We agreed to Iran's demands. Iran did not agree to America's demands.


* Iran has agreed to reopening the Strait of Hormuz. But each ship must pay two million dollars to Iran.

You must be getting your "facts" from MS NOW. Trump hasn't agreed to anything. He has given the Iranians two weeks to work out a deal. That is not backing down. That is a measured response to progress in negotiations. The Iranians denied they were even negotiating. Like everything else, they obviously were lying about that. If the Iranians don't negotiate in good faith and work out a deal that includes abandoning their nuclear program and long range missile program, Trump will follow through on his threat to destroy their infrastructure and either destroy Kharg Island or take it by force. Either way, the Iranian regime will lose its main source of income.

I suspect the Iranians are just stalling for time but for now our forces will get some R&R and we can rearm in advance of a total destruction of that country. Trump is not playing games. He showed last summer he wasn't bluffing and again when he attacked Iran with overwhelming force, wiping out the top tiers of their leadership in the process. He has given the Iranians an off ramp. They would be wise to take it or they will soon be a third world country with no significant means of income. Nobody wants to buy their sand.

Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #4082 on: Today at 12:39:03 PM »
 :D TACO Supreme !!
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Online John Corbett

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« Reply #4083 on: Today at 01:58:51 PM »
:D TACO Supreme !!

The libtards who are claiming Trump has backed down have no sense of reality. We have wiped out their navy. We have wiped out their air force. Their air defense is almost non-existent. After flying thousands of sorties, they have managed to down one of our aircraft, and we were able to go into their shitass country and pluck our two airmen out right under their noses. The libtards are so delusional they think that a country which has just suffered and overwhelming military defeat is going to dictate the terms to the country that decimated them. In what universe is that even possible.

Donald Trump has declared a PAUSE. We still hold the hammer and we are more the willing to drop it on Iran if they do not meet OUR TERMS.
No nuclear weapons program.
No long range missiles.
Free passage through the Strait of Hormuz for ALL ships.

They may not have agreed to those terms yet, but if they don't, we will continue to destroy what is left of their military and their infrastructure. They know we have that capability and there is nothing they can do to stop us. The key is Kharg Island which they cannot defend and they know it. If they lose that, they have no source of income. Even China won't have ny reason to continue to support them. Kharg Island is Iran's lifeline and it operates at our pleasure. We could destroy it completely in a matter of hours if we so choose. Trump doesn't want to take that step but he will if need be and the Iranians either know that or should know that. If they don't, they are only fooling themselves.

The people who vote with their dollars know this is a positive development. Crude oil prices have already fallen to double digits and Dow Futures are up over 1200 points with minutes before the opening bell. Libtards just can't bring themselves to give Donald Trump credit for anything so they make up this fiction that it is the Iranians dictating the terms of the cease fire. Their reaction is as pathetic as it is predictable. No one is surprised by it, only disgusted.

Offline Michael Capasse

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« Reply #4084 on: Today at 02:13:52 PM »
"Joe Iranian" gets to live another day.
Thumb1: thank you Mr. Tangerine Man.

Online John Corbett

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« Reply #4085 on: Today at 02:41:18 PM »
"Joe Iranian" gets to live another day.
Thumb1: thank you Mr. Tangerine Man.

Not much longer than that if they don't make a deal on Trump's terms.

We've tolerated Iranian aggression for 47 years. We can wait another couple of weeks.

Offline Jack Nessan

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« Reply #4086 on: Today at 03:46:49 PM »
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The Iranian leadership is even more cowardly than what could have been imagined. They were willing to sacrifice women and children on the infrastructures to save their pathetic regime. 

Obviously, you agree with them. Interesting that you personally would not have had any problem pulling the trigger and bombing the sites with the women and children present.

Online John Corbett

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« Reply #4087 on: Today at 04:24:13 PM »
The Iranian leadership is even more cowardly than what could have been imagined. They were willing to sacrifice women and children on the infrastructures to save their pathetic regime. 

Obviously, you agree with them. Interesting that you personally would not have had any problem pulling the trigger and bombing the sites with the women and children present.

Actually, the libtards would have had a problem with anything Trump decided to do. That's how they are wired. If Trump is for it, they are against it. If Trump is against it, they are for it. They never want to stake out their own position on an issue until they see what Trump is going to do. I'll bet they are really disappointed our mission to rescue our downed airmen was so successful. I think they were counting on that turning into a disaster.