U.S. Politics

[Tom Graves]

Mueller had no proof of conclusion. To suggest there was collusion in lieu of credible evidence is reprehensible misconduct.

It's disingenuous of you and other Trump supporters to accuse Mueller, et al., of failing to prove collusion when "collusion" isn't a legal concept, crime, or theory of liability in U.S. criminal law.

[John Corbett]

It's disingenuous of you and other Trump supporters to accuse Mueller, et al., of failing to prove collusion when "collusion" isn't a legal concept, crime, or theory of liability in U.S. criminal law.

So you agree that Mueller didn't prove a crime by the Trump campaign. We are making progress.

[Tom Graves]

So you agree that Mueller didn't prove a crime by the Trump campaign. We are making progress.

The fact remains that Vladimir Putin, the "former" KGB counterintelligence officer who murdered 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings so that he could reinvade Chechnya and become president, began to interfere in our 2016 election in 2014, and went to great lengths during the following two years to do so. The Trump Campaign at the very least welcomed his help, and some of its associates, like Roger Stone and his newfound pro-Russia buddy, Harley Schlanger, evidently conspired with the Russians to get it done.

[John Corbett]

The fact remains that Vladimir Putin, the "former" KGB counterintelligence officer who murdered 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings so that he could reinvade Chechnya and become president, began to interfere in our 2016 election in 2014, and went to great lengths during the following two years to do so. The Trump Campaign at the very least welcomed his help, and some of its associates, like Roger Stone and his newfound pro-Russia buddy, Harley Schlanger, evidently conspired with the Russians to get it done.

You mean like Hillary welcoming the help from the Steele Dossier.

If Putin began his meddling in 2014, it could not be to help Trump because he didn't declare his candidacy until 2015 and even then, few people took him seriously. It was only after he began winning primaries that people began to realize he was for real. Putin likely expected Hillary to be the nominee as did most people in the US. All you have shown is that Putin and Trump had a common foe which is not surprising because nobody likes Hillary, not even Bill.

[Tom Graves]

You mean like Hillary welcoming the help from the Steele Dossier.

If Putin began his meddling in 2014, it could not be to help Trump because he didn't declare his candidacy until 2015 and even then, few people took him seriously. It was only after he began winning primaries that people began to realize he was for real. Putin likely expected Hillary to be the nominee as did most people in the US. All you have shown is that Putin and Trump had a common foe which is not surprising because nobody likes Hillary, not even Bill.

The KGB Background to the 2016 Campaign

Unlike Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton didn't solicit or even welcome help from an enemy country during the 2016 campaign, but the to-be-expected opposition research that she commissioned against Trump ironically worked out that way (ironic, because it accrued to Trump's advantage) when probable KGB agent Igor Danchenko began feeding Christopher Steele some dossier-discrediting “intel” that was either false or unfalsifiable.

Of course, by "enemy country" I mean Russia, the leadership of which in 1959, having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, decided to get us to defeat ourselves by setting up Department D in the KGB's First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) to wage Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and out NATO allies. Not to be outdone by the FCD, risk-taking General Oleg Gribanov set up an analog unit, Department 14, in this Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), sent GRU Colonel Dmitry Polyakov and KGB Major Aleksey Kulak to the FBI's NYC field office to "volunteer" to spy for it at the U.N., and six months after true defector KGB Major Anatoly Golitsyn defected to the U.S., sent false-defector-in-place Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva to discredit what Golitsyn was telling the CIA.

This same Nosenko recontacted the CIA in Geneva in late January 1964 to tell it that he had read Oswald's KGB file four times in Moscow. Possibly without authorization from KGB headquarters, he parlayed this "revelation" to force the CIA to let him physically defect to the U.S. where Kulak (in 1964), Igor Kochnov (in 1966), and Vitaly Yurchenko (in 1985) and others had no choice but to support his bona fides.

In 1968, a probable mole by the name of Bruce Solie "cleared" Nosenko, and a few years later the Agency hired him to teach "counterintelligence" to its and the FBI's new recruits.

JFK assassination lone gunman advocate Gerald Posner befriended Nosenko while writing his 1993 book, Case Closed, because the Russian told him exactly what he wanted to hear -- that the KGB had absolutely nothing to do with former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator, Lee Harvey Oswald, during the two-and-a-half years he lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk.

Trump's role model, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, was an SVR counterintelligence officer from 1976 to 1991, doing such things as helping the terroristic Baader-Meinhof Gang (aka Red Army Faction) in Dresden, East Germany, and smuggling high-tech military equipment into Russia, etc.).

Putin murdered 307 of his own citizens in a 1999 false flag op so he could become president, sent Anna Chapman and the Ten Dwarfs (or was it Eleven?) to the U.S. to penetrate our institutions and our government around 2000, waged full-on electronic warfare against Estonia in 2007, invaded Georgia in 2008, and in 2014, in addition to invading Ukraine, started meddling in our 2016 election -- at first he was trying to hurt Clinton, but by early 2016 he was actively helping Trump because he knew that the malignant narcissist would have no choice but to support him and would wittingly or unwittingly help the KGB achieve its aforementioned goal of tearing us apart.

[Tom Graves]

Duplicate post.

[John Corbett]

The KGB Background to the 2016 Campaign

Unlike Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton didn't solicit or even welcome help from an enemy country during the 2016 campaign, but the to-be-expected opposition research that she commissioned against Trump ironically worked out that way (ironic, because it accrued to Trump's advantage) when probable KGB agent Igor Danchenko began feeding Christopher Steele dossier-discrediting unfalsifiable "intel."

Of course, by "enemy country" I mean Russia, the leadership of which in 1959, having realized that the USSR and the Warsaw Pact couldn't defeat the U.S. and NATO militarily, decided to get us to defeat ourselves by setting up Department D in the KGB's First Chief Directorate (today's SVR) to wage Sun Tzu-like disinformation, "active measures," and mole-based strategic deception counterintelligence operations against us and out NATO allies. Not to be outdone by the FCD, risk-taking General Oleg Gribanov set up an analog unit, Department 14, in this Second Chief Directorate (today's FSB), sent GRU Colonel Dmitry Polyakov and KGB Major Aleksey Kulak to the FBI's NYC field office to "volunteer" to spy for it at the U.N., and six months after true defector KGB Major Anatoly Golitsyn defected to the U.S., sent false-defector-in-place Yuri Nosenko to the CIA in Geneva to discredit what Golitsyn was telling the CIA.

This same Nosenko recontacted the CIA in Geneva in late January 1964 to tell it that he had read Oswald's KGB file four times in Moscow. Possibly without authorization from KGB headquarters, he parlayed this "revelation" to force the CIA to let him physically defect to the U.S. where Kulak (in 1964), Igor Kochnov (in 1966), and Vitaly Yurchenko (in 1985) and others had no choice but to support his bona fides.

In 1968, a probable mole by the name of Bruce Solie "cleared" Nosenko, and a few years later the Agency hired him to teach "counterintelligence" to its and the FBI's new recruits.

JFK assassination lone gunman advocate Gerald Posner befriended Nosenko while writing his 1993 book, Case Closed, because the Russian told him exactly what he wanted to hear -- that the KGB had absolutely nothing to do with former Marine sharpshooter and U-2 radar operator, Lee Harvey Oswald, during the two-and-a-half years he lived half-a-mile from a KGB school in Minsk.

Trump's role model, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, was an SVR counterintelligence officer from 1976 to 1991, doing such things as helping the terroristic Baader-Meinhof Gang (aka Red Army Faction) in Dresden, East Germany, and smuggling high-tech military equipment into Russia, etc.).

Putin murdered 307 of his own citizens in a 1999 false flag op so he could become president, sent Anna Chapman and the Ten Dwarfs (or was it Eleven?) to the U.S. to penetrate our institutions and our government around 2000, waged full-on electronic warfare against Estonia in 2007, invaded Georgia in 2008, and in 2014, in addition to invading Ukraine, started meddling in our 2016 election -- at first he was trying to hurt Clinton, but by early 2016 he was actively helping Trump because he knew that the malignant narcissist would have no choice but to support him and would wittingly or unwittingly help the KGB achieve its aforementioned goal of tearing us apart.

What the hell does any of this have to do with Trump?

[Tom Graves]

What the hell does any of this have to do with Trump?

Have you forgotten asking the lame rhetorical question, "You mean like Hillary welcoming the help from the Steele Dossier?" in response to my saying, "The fact remains that Vladimir Putin, the 'former' KGB counterintelligence officer who murdered 307 of his own citizens in the 1999 Russian Apartment Bombings so that he could reinvade Chechnya and become president, began to interfere in our 2016 election in 2014, and went to great lengths during the following two years to do so. The Trump Campaign at the very least welcomed his help, and some of its associates, like Roger Stone and his newfound pro-Russia buddy, Harley Schlanger, evidently conspired with the Russians to get it done"?

Perhaps you should go back and review, Corbett.