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« Reply #3432 on: August 23, 2025, 02:01:51 PM »
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Ghislaine Maxwell is in prison for facilitating these crimes.

Smith,

She denied committing the crimes.

You believe her, right?

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« Reply #3433 on: August 23, 2025, 02:41:06 PM »
Smith,

She denied committing the crimes.

You believe her, right?

LOL.  That has nothing to do with Trump comrade.  Why would she lie about Trump?  The corrupt Biden DOJ was out to get Trump at all costs.  If she had anything on Trump, she would have disclosed it to them and been released.  This is another baseless Trump hoax.  Like Russia collusion.

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« Reply #3434 on: August 23, 2025, 03:22:10 PM »
LOL. That has nothing to do with Trump comrade. Why would she lie about Trump? The corrupt Biden DOJ was out to get Trump at all costs. If she had anything on Trump, she would have disclosed it to them and been released. This is another baseless Trump hoax.  Like Russia collusion.

Herr Schicklgruber I mean Herr Smith,

Ghislaine Maxwell told Todd Blanche she didn't commit the crimes for which she is incarcerated.

Do you believe her?

If not, why, then, would you believe what she says about anything?

"If she had anything on Italian Mafia-connected and Russian Mafia-connected Trump, she would have snitched on him during the Biden Administration."

Really?

Regarding "Russia Collusion," google the names "stone" "schlanger" and "caddy" simultaneously.

But here's the thing:

Whether or not The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") colluded with your boy, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, to get "elected," the fact remains that your boy, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, waged a widespread hacking and influence campaign to ensure that Clinton would lose and that The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") would "win."

Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committe both arrived at that conclusion.

Perhaps you missed their reports because you were too busy reading Ayn Rand, "The Daily Stormer," and the latest "Q drops," or some-such thing.

« Last Edit: August 23, 2025, 04:34:06 PM by Tom Graves »

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« Reply #3435 on: August 23, 2025, 05:13:01 PM »
We do not need another endless war that rages on for years or decades.  We have been there and done that.  The results are always disastrous.  The best option under the circumstances is a compromise that ends the war.  Putin will not live forever.  He is the last of the Cold War leaders.  Once he is gone, there will be a new generation of Russian leaders who can revisit this.

Neville Chamberlain couldn't have said it any better.

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« Reply #3436 on: August 23, 2025, 05:17:08 PM »
Joe Biden sat on his hands and permitted Russia to invade Ukraine to begin with. "10% for the Big Guy" being the reason. Arms sales kickbacks.

Storing,

Either you're one of Putin's trolls, or you missed it.

AI Overview:

The phrase "ten for the big guy" refers to an allegation made by former business associates of Hunter Biden that his father, then-Vice President Joe Biden, was to receive a 10% stake in a business deal with a Chinese energy company. The allegation became a central part of Republican-led investigations into the Biden family's foreign business dealings.

The origin of the phrase

The email: The phrase originates from a May 2017 email from James Gilliar, a business associate of Hunter Biden's, regarding the division of equity in a proposed deal with the Chinese company CEFC. The email contained the line, "10 held by H for the big guy?" with "H" referring to Hunter.

Contradictory accounts:

Another business partner, Tony Bobulinski, publicly claimed that "the big guy" was a reference to Joe Biden and that he had met with Joe Biden to discuss the business.

However, other partners in the deal testified that the idea was "wishful thinking" by Gilliar and that Joe Biden was not involved. Gilliar himself told The Wall Street Journal in 2020 that his suggestion "never went anywhere."

Hunter Biden testified to a congressional committee that the email was sent without his father's knowledge.

Allegations, investigations, and recent developments.

Republican claims: Congressional Republicans, particularly the House Oversight Committee, have cited the "ten for the big guy" email as a key piece of evidence in their investigations into alleged influence-peddling by the Biden family.

Biden family denies wrongdoing: Both Hunter and Joe Biden have repeatedly denied that the elder Biden was involved in or received money from his son's foreign business dealings.

Pardon for Hunter Biden: Following Hunter Biden's conviction on gun charges in June 2024 and his guilty plea for tax evasion in September 2024, his father, then-President Joe Biden, issued a full and unconditional pardon for all federal offenses in December 2024.

Weiss Report: In January 2025, Special Counsel David Weiss's final report on his investigations into Hunter Biden's conduct was released. It states that Weiss's prosecutions were the result of "thorough, impartial investigations" and refuted Joe Biden's earlier characterization of the probe as infected by "raw politics." Judge Mark Scarsi, who oversaw the tax case, also criticized Joe Biden's attempt to "rewrite history" regarding the case.

No evidence of Joe Biden's involvement: As of August 2025, there has been no evidence to prove that Joe Biden was involved in or benefited from his son's business dealings.
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« Reply #3437 on: August 23, 2025, 08:55:09 PM »

 "10% for the Big Guy" is on Hunter's Laptop.  It's part of the "payout structure" of Hunter's Company.

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« Reply #3438 on: August 24, 2025, 04:33:31 AM »
"10% for the Big Guy" is on Hunter's Laptop. It's part of the "payout structure" of Hunter's Company.

Storing,

"10 held by H for the big guy?" was a proposal in an email from one of Hunter's business associates at the time, James Gilliar, a British guy who's as shady as the day is long.

Background:

The House Oversight and Accountability and Judiciary committees, which were conducting an impeachment inquiry into President Joe Biden, obtained an email in which James Gilliar, a business associate of Hunter Biden, discussed the possible equity for the partners in a business deal that involved Hunter and CEFC, a Chinese energy conglomerate, and referenced, “10 held by H for the big guy?”.

Republicans on the committee pointed to this as evidence that Joe Biden had a financial stake in his son’s overseas business deals. But as we wrote, the final draft agreement setting up the venture made no mention of Joe Biden.

“I would like to clear up any speculation that former Vice President Biden was involved with the 2017 discussions about our potential business structure,” Gilliar told the Wall Street Journal in 2020. “I am unaware of any involvement at any time of the former vice president. The activity in question never delivered any project revenue.”

In his testimony on Feb. 28, Hunter Biden was asked if “the big guy” was a reference to his father.

“I truly don’t know what the hell that James [Gilliar] was talking about,” Biden said. “All I know is that what actually happened. All I know is that what was executed in the agreement, and the agreement didn’t have anything to do with my father. My father’s never been involved with my business. He’s never benefited from my business, and he’s never taken an action to benefit me or any of my business.”

Biden said it was likely “pie in the sky” thinking by Gilliar, “Like Joe Biden’s out of the office. Maybe we’ll be able to get him involved. Remember, again, is that Joe Biden, for first time in 48 years, is not an elected official and is not seeking office. And so James is probably, like, wow, wouldn’t be great if a former vice president could be in our business together? And I say you’re out of your mind. My dad knows less about doing cross-border blah, blah, blah, than he does about — I mean, it’s just ridiculous. It’s absolutely ridiculous.” ... “And so I shut it down, and the evidence of me shutting it down is the actual things you have as evidence,” Biden said. “Remember that. The agreement, the executed agreement, the executed agreement to create a company that was never operated, that’s what happened. That’s the evidence you have. You have the evidence of the executed agreement between Hudson West Three, me, and Mr. Ye. You have that. Nothing to do with my dad, zero.”

-- FactCheck . org, 6 March 2024


FWIW, I asked Grok:

In the email that James Gilliar sent to Hunter Biden that mentioned "10 held by H for the big guy," did the sentence have a question mark at the end, i.e., "10 held by H for the big guy?"

Grok's answer:

Yes, the sentence in the email sent by James Gilliar to Hunter Biden on May 13, 2017, regarding the proposed equity split for a business venture with CEFC China Energy, included a question mark at the end. The exact phrasing, as reported by multiple sources, is: "10 held by H for the big guy?" This question mark indicates that the statement was posed as a question or suggestion, rather than a definitive assertion.

. . . . . . . .

Storing,

Perhaps you missed this on the "Republicans" star witness, Tony "Big Bozo" Bobulinski:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/gops-star-witness-tony-bobulinski-in-hunter-biden-probe-has-ties-to-russian-oligarch/


And I almost forgot about Alexander Smirnov. You remember him, don't you?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/biden-impeachment-witness-alexander-smirnov-arrested-again-for-lying-to-fbi/

. . . . . . .

A friendly bit of advice for Herr Storing:

Maybe you should concentrate on trying to prove your Kremlin-approved "Huge Gates" theory, instead?

LOL!

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« Reply #3439 on: August 24, 2025, 02:26:59 PM »
Herr Schicklgruber I mean Herr Smith,

Ghislaine Maxwell told Todd Blanche she didn't commit the crimes for which she is incarcerated.

Do you believe her?

If not, why, then, would you believe what she says about anything?

"If she had anything on Italian Mafia-connected and Russian Mafia-connected Trump, she would have snitched on him during the Biden Administration."

Really?

Regarding "Russia Collusion," google the names "stone" "schlanger" and "caddy" simultaneously.

But here's the thing:

Whether or not The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") colluded with your boy, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, to get "elected," the fact remains that your boy, "former" KGB officer Vladimir Putin, waged a widespread hacking and influence campaign to ensure that Clinton would lose and that The Traitorous Orange Bird (rhymes with "Xxxx") would "win."

Republican Robert Mueller and the Republican-controlled Senate Intelligence Committe both arrived at that conclusion.

Perhaps you missed their reports because you were too busy reading Ayn Rand, "The Daily Stormer," and the latest "Q drops," or some-such thing.

The old circle of lunacy.  Comrade Tomsky suggests that anything that is said that he doesn't like is a lie.  Not only that but that the lie itself is the proof of a conspiracy.  Therefore, even a denial of Trump's involvement is confirmation of his involvement.  And his logic is amusing.  Maxwell is lying about her own involvement.  Implying that she had detailed firsthand knowledge of Epstein's crimes.  In which case she should know if Trump was involved.  She says he wasn't.  Another Trump conspiracy melts away like the snow.

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