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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #3064 on: May 23, 2025, 06:07:36 PM »
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I don't think they were smart enough to "fix an election" if by that you mean somehow manipulating the vote totals with fake votes.  These are not particularly bright people who were known for getting things done. I do think they used COVID as a pretext to change the election laws in a way that changed the outcome.  Imagine if Trump and the Republicans had changed the elections is the weeks just before the election in such a way that statistical changed the outcome.   There would have been justified outcries that the election was unfair.   Trump would have won the 2020 election by the same margin that he won in 2024.

   Disagree. You're underestimating an opponent. This is why Trump embraced Musk. Musk's SpaceX computer nerds prevented this same chicanery in 2024. You mention "fake" votes. SWITCHING votes from 1 candidate to the other are Not "Fake" votes. And a SWITCHED Vote is actually a 2 vote switch in the vote count.

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« Reply #3064 on: May 23, 2025, 06:07:36 PM »


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« Reply #3065 on: May 24, 2025, 01:58:25 PM »
   Disagree. You're underestimating an opponent. This is why Trump embraced Musk. Musk's SpaceX computer nerds prevented this same chicanery in 2024. You mention "fake" votes. SWITCHING votes from 1 candidate to the other are Not "Fake" votes. And a SWITCHED Vote is actually a 2 vote switch in the vote count.

I don't buy that the Biden crowd was that smart and there is no evidence of such.  The difference in the 2020 election was a statistical outlier in total votes.  Both candidates received more votes than any other candidate in American history.   A situation that was not repeated in 2024 when it returned to more normal numbers absent the COVID laws.  More total votes can't be explained as a product of votes being switched.  It is explained by vote harvesting which means that someone registered and basically voted on behalf of groups that usually do not turn out in large numbers like students and minorities.  That increased the total vote and made the difference.
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« Reply #3066 on: May 24, 2025, 11:54:23 PM »
I don't buy that the Biden crowd was that smart and there is no evidence of such.  The difference in the 2020 election was a statistical outlier in total votes.  Both candidates received more votes than any other candidate in American history.   A situation that was not repeated in 2024 when it returned to more normal numbers absent the COVID laws.  More total votes can't be explained as a product of votes being switched.  It is explained by vote harvesting which means that someone registered and basically voted on behalf of groups that usually do not turn out in large numbers like students and minorities.  That increased the total vote and made the difference.

  Like I said, Musk was brought on board to prevent a repeat of the 2020 Election  BS: Hence, Trump gets 3 MILLION MORE VOTES in the 2024 election even though the turnout was Down vs the 2020 voter turnout. Trump's 3 Million Vote increase was Not New Votes. He always had the overwhelming majority of those 3 million votes/voters. Trump actually won the 2020 election in a Landslide. Don't be naive. Never forget how Trump's overwhelming vote lead in ALL the swing states switched in the early morning hours the following day. You label this as merely being an "outlier"? That's the same kind of nebulous verbiage that would make Tammany Hall proud. "Outlier" is right up there with "Human Error".  Any "group" that would hide the fact that the sitting POTUS was an Egg Plant, would also "FIX" an election. This is consistent conduct in order to maintain power.     
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« Reply #3066 on: May 24, 2025, 11:54:23 PM »


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« Reply #3067 on: May 25, 2025, 01:46:30 AM »
  Like I said, Musk was brought on board to prevent a repeat of the 2020 Election  BS: Hence, Trump gets 3 MILLION MORE VOTES in the 2024 election even though the turnout was Down vs the 2020 voter turnout. Trump's 3 Million Vote increase was Not New Votes. He always had the overwhelming majority of those 3 million votes/voters. Trump actually won the 2020 election in a Landslide. Don't be naive. Never forget how Trump's overwhelming vote lead in ALL the swing states switched in the early morning hours the following day. You label this as merely being an "outlier"? That's the same kind of nebulous verbiage that would make Tammany Hall proud. "Outlier" is right up there with "Human Error".  Any "group" that would hide the fact that the sitting POTUS was an Egg Plant, would also "FIX" an election. This is consistent conduct in order to maintain power.   

Storing and Smith,

Why don't you two Trump-supporting lovebirds get a room for your titillating "squabbles"?

Btw, neither of you have ever answered my question:

Does Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

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« Reply #3068 on: May 25, 2025, 01:36:08 PM »
Illegal border crossings are down 90% from last year.  So much for another leftist hoax that there was nothing they could do to stop the crossings without new legislation.

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« Reply #3069 on: May 27, 2025, 05:55:43 AM »
Trump just told the West Point graduates to avoid marrying trophy wives. Just the sort of advice new young officers need to hear when joining the military. But, it was his only statement where he spoke from the heart, based on personal experience.

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« Reply #3070 on: May 27, 2025, 06:02:32 AM »
Illegal border crossings are down 90% from last year.  So much for another leftist hoax that there was nothing they could do to stop the crossings without new legislation.

Or certain countries, like Venezuela sent as many people as possible while Biden was president while preventing this as much as possible while Trump is president.

I still find it difficult to believe a man who promised to close off the border and who did so by building a wall 52 miles long, is really serious about preventing illegal immigration. I think Trump is much more committed to getting the maximum tax breaks to the wealthy over preventing illegal immigration or deporting the 50,000 immigrants per week for four years.
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« Reply #3071 on: May 27, 2025, 07:00:24 AM »
Trump just told the West Point graduates to avoid marrying trophy wives. Just the sort of advice new young officers need to hear when joining the military. But, it was his only statement where he spoke from the heart, based on personal experience.

   Have you ever seen the movie,  "An Officer And A Gentleman" (1982)? Lou Gossett Jr basically gives the same advice to his recruits hitting the town for the weekend. Gossett won the Oscar for, "Best Supporting Actor", for his performance. Trump was channeling Gossett during this "trophy" segment of his West Point Address.

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« Reply #3071 on: May 27, 2025, 07:00:24 AM »