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Online Richard Smith

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« Reply #3072 on: May 28, 2025, 12:59:29 AM »
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Trump just told the West Point graduates to avoid marrying trophy wives. Just the sort of advice new young officers need to hear when joining the military. But, it was his only statement where he spoke from the heart, based on personal experience.

What is more important?  Something sarcastic like that or sending them off to fight and die in endless foreign wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq?  Trump is the only modern president to keep us out of these foreign conflicts.

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Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3073 on: May 28, 2025, 01:16:29 AM »
What is more important?  Something sarcastic like that or sending them off to fight and die in endless foreign wars like Vietnam, Afghanistan, and Iraq?  Trump is the only modern president to keep us out of these foreign conflicts.
Smith,

Would you have been an "America First" isolationist during WW II, too?

Btw, you never answered my question:

Does Vladimir Putin pay you, or do you do it for free?

Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #3074 on: May 28, 2025, 01:38:55 AM »

  What do you think FDR was before Pearl Harbor? He did ALL he could to keep the USA GI Joe's from actively fighting the Nazi's.

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Offline Lance Payette

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« Reply #3075 on: May 28, 2025, 02:02:43 AM »
  What do you think FDR was before Pearl Harbor? He did ALL he could to keep the USA GI Joe's from actively fighting the Nazi's.

Yes, I was surprised in some recent reading at the extent to which the US entry into both WW1 and WW2 was highly unpopular with large numbers of Americans. There was widespread speculation that Pearl Harbor was known about with enough advance warning to stop it but that it was allowed to occur to jolt the public out of its isolationist apathy.

There is some happy medium between the isolationist fantasy and the fantasy that the US can be the entire free world's military, policeman and peacekeeper. The Ukraine war can be argued and debated from almost every angle.

I was surprised today to see that in the comments section on FOX News the sentiment has shifted from "Walk away, it's not our problem" to "Nuke Russia now!" It was really quite dramatic. I'm having a difficult time understanding what Putin gains by forcing Trump's hand as he seems to be doing.

I feel sure it has something to do with Tennent Bagley, Bruce Solie and that KGB mole thing ...  ::) ::)

Online Tom Graves

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« Reply #3076 on: May 28, 2025, 02:04:08 AM »
What do you think FDR was before Pearl Harbor? He did ALL he could to keep the USA GI Joe's from actively fighting the Nazi's.

You and your political lovebird, Smith, would have been "America First" isolationists even after Pearl Harbor, right?

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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #3077 on: May 28, 2025, 02:07:40 AM »
You and your political lovebird, Smith, would have been "America First" isolationists even after Pearl Harbor, right?

  Appreciate your acknowledging your history pothole. Pearl Harbor does destroy your pointless point. Bone up or bow out. 

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« Reply #3078 on: May 28, 2025, 02:21:53 AM »
The Ukraine war can be argued and debated from almost every angle.

By expanding NATO eastward, we forced Putin to invade fascistic Ukraine, right?

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I was surprised today to see that in the comments section on FOX News the sentiment has shifted from "Walk away, [Putin's invading and committing genocide in Ukraine] is not our problem" to "Nuke Russia now!" I feel sure [the nuke Russia now sentiment being expressed on my favorite MAGAT "news" channel] has something to do with Tennent H. Bagley, Bruce Leonard Solie and that KGB mole thing.

No, Comrade Payette. The KGB may have penetrated the you-know-what out of Britain and France, et al., but it never, never, never, ever, ever penetrated the CIA and the FBI until Aldrich Ames and Robert Hanssen "went bad"! To think otherwise is just Golitsyn-and-Angleton "sick think" and paranoia! Heck, the KGB* is a world-class humanitarian organization compared to the evil, evil CIA, and regardless, WE WON THE COLD WAR!!!

*Today's SVR and FSB
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« Reply #3079 on: May 28, 2025, 02:59:59 AM »
Appreciate your acknowledging your history pothole. Pearl Harbor does destroy your pointless point. Bone up or bow out.

You would have been an "America First"-isolationist before and after, right, Storing?.
« Last Edit: May 28, 2025, 04:34:28 AM by Tom Graves »

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