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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2021, 02:19:28 AM »
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The point is:....That "attitude" was EARNED.....   And you Mr Collins are one of those who considers himself to be intellectually superior.   

Some sage  once observed that those who believe  themselves to be intellectually superior may actually be a bit inferior, but their egos won't allow them to admit it.

Says the guy who believes the red rings on the TSBD windows are a signal despite knowing they for fire safety purpose. It is amazing to see a loons like yourself and "Otto" lecture folks on the evidence.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #64 on: September 26, 2021, 02:19:28 AM »


Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #65 on: September 26, 2021, 03:34:22 AM »
Says the guy who believes the red rings on the TSBD windows are a signal despite knowing they for fire safety purpose. It is amazing to see a loons like yourself and "Otto" lecture folks on the evidence.

despite knowing they for fire safety purpose.

I know nothing of the kind....In fact if you were smart enough to comprehend what I wrote you wouldn't make a fool of yourself with such a stupid statement.... I have NEVER acquiesced that the red rings on the TSBD windows were there for any safety reason....

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #66 on: September 26, 2021, 07:39:39 AM »
I sincerely wish that some LNer like yourself would engage in a serious discussion on this topic......

The discovery that the early news reports reported that Tippit had been shot while attempting to apprehend Lee Harvey Oswald at the theater has been a golden nugget of information.

But it became fairly obvious (early on) that this "golden nugget" was just one of several non-conspiratorial mistakes made by the news media on 11/22---similar in nature to other "golden nuggets" of erroneous info reported on radio and television that day. Such as: The "Secret Service agent has been shot and killed" nugget. And the "Lyndon Johnson had a heart attack and/or was also hit by an assassin's bullet" golden nugget(s). And then there's the "Oswald has confessed to killing the President and the police officer" nugget, which turned out to be nothing but erroneous (and hilarious) hot air that was being reported as absolute fact by at least two of Dallas' radio stations on November 22 (KBOX and KLIF).

All of those things were obviously wrong. But they made it to the media airwaves anyway. And those errors don't involve anything "conspiratorial". They were simply mistakes that were corrected later in the day.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-media-errors.html


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There is no doubt in my mind that Captain Fritz assumed that Tippit had been shot by Lee Oswald at the Texas Theater. The reporters were receiving their information at police headquarters and Fritz or one of his associates had probably told the reporters that Oswald had shot Tippit at the theater.

If Fritz believed that Oswald had shot Tippit at the theater, as I believe, then many of the questions like the title of this thread are answered.   

Regardless of how the media received the early erroneous report that J.D. Tippit had been shot at the theater, the evidence that Captain Fritz had available to him --- e.g., the multiple witnesses who positively identified Oswald as Tippit's killer, plus the bullet shell casings found on 10th Street that matched the gun that Oswald had on him when he was arrested --- would certainly be enough to demonstrate to Fritz that Oswald was, in fact, the murderer of Officer Tippit.

And as for that last item of evidence I just mentioned above---I've talked about this obvious (but often overlooked) fact so many times in the past, I decided to memorialize it in a digital image....



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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #67 on: September 26, 2021, 10:23:27 AM »
I don’t claim to be an expert as related to the JFK assassination case. But, I have studied it for many years and have learned a great deal about the details.

See Charles, that's the difference between you and Otto, Otto has only been studying this case for about two minutes and hasn't yet the developed the ability for intelligent deductive reasoning, therefore he's still at the stage where blindly repeating his last seen conspiracy Youtube video is the depth of his knowledge. Perhaps in time when Otto grows up and realizes that insults shouldn't be his default response and then and only then he may have an adult epiphany and consider the entirety of the evidence in context instead of his usual uninformed juvenile kneejerk response.

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #68 on: September 26, 2021, 03:31:02 PM »
See Charles, that's the difference between you and Otto, Otto has only been studying this case for about two minutes and hasn't yet the developed the ability for intelligent deductive reasoning, therefore he's still at the stage where blindly repeating his last seen conspiracy Youtube video is the depth of his knowledge. Perhaps in time when Otto grows up and realizes that insults shouldn't be his default response and then and only then he may have an adult epiphany and consider the entirety of the evidence in context instead of his usual uninformed juvenile kneejerk response.

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The M.O. has become painfully obvious. Can’t debate the case on it’s merits, so resorts to insults. Then hilariously believes that: “ The WC fanboys are routinely destroyed on this forum.”   :D

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #69 on: September 26, 2021, 06:10:39 PM »
But it became fairly obvious (early on) that this "golden nugget" was just one of several non-conspiratorial mistakes made by the news media on 11/22---similar in nature to other "golden nuggets" of erroneous info reported on radio and television that day. Such as: The "Secret Service agent has been shot and killed" nugget. And the "Lyndon Johnson had a heart attack and/or was also hit by an assassin's bullet" golden nugget(s). And then there's the "Oswald has confessed to killing the President and the police officer" nugget, which turned out to be nothing but erroneous (and hilarious) hot air that was being reported as absolute fact by at least two of Dallas' radio stations on November 22 (KBOX and KLIF).

All of those things were obviously wrong. But they made it to the media airwaves anyway. And those errors don't involve anything "conspiratorial". They were simply mistakes that were corrected later in the day.

http://jfk-archives.blogspot.com/2013/05/jfk-assassination-media-errors.html


Regardless of how the media received the early erroneous report that J.D. Tippit had been shot at the theater, the evidence that Captain Fritz had available to him --- e.g., the multiple witnesses who positively identified Oswald as Tippit's killer, plus the bullet shell casings found on 10th Street that matched the gun that Oswald had on him when he was arrested --- would certainly be enough to demonstrate to Fritz that Oswald was, in fact, the murderer of Officer Tippit.

And as for that last item of evidence I just mentioned above---I've talked about this obvious (but often overlooked) fact so many times in the past, I decided to memorialize it in a digital image....



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All of those things were obviously wrong. But they made it to the media airwaves anyway.

The point is:.....Fritz apparently thought that Tippit had been shot by Lee Oswald in the Theater.....

Regardless of how the media received the early erroneous report that J.D. Tippit had been shot at the theater, the evidence that Captain Fritz had available to him --- e.g., the multiple witnesses who positively identified Oswald as Tippit's killer, plus the bullet shell casings found on 10th Street that matched the gun that Oswald had on him when he was arrested --- would certainly be enough to demonstrate to Fritz that Oswald was, in fact, the murderer of Officer Tippit.

the multiple witnesses who positively identified Oswald as Tippit's killer, plus the bullet shell casings found on 10th Street that matched the gun that Oswald had on him when he was arrested --- would certainly be enough to demonstrate to Fritz that Oswald was, in fact, the murderer of Officer Tippit.

Whoa there, ya dumbass mule......   Yer attributing things to Fritz that he didn't know when he first started interrogating Lee.

When Fritz started questioning Lee ....He knew that he had been arrested at the theater....and JD. Tippit had been shot....That's the extent of his knowledge at 3:00 pm.   He knew nothing about the spent shells found at 10th and Patton,  He knew no0thing about Helen Markham or any other person who had been in the vicinity of Tippi's murder.

The fact that Fritz assumed that Tippit had been shot in the theater is heavily reflected in the initial questioning of Lee Oswald and is the question in the title of this thread.    Was  Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?



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"somebody other than Oswald shoots Tippit with Oswald's revolver"

This utterly ridiculous statement is the product of a warped brain......The author bases his statement on his imagination.

He obviously  believes that the 38 caliber S&W that Lee apparently possessed when he was arrested at the theater was the murder weapon.     Any rational and reasoning person would study to learn the facts before forming an opinion.

Here are the facts

A) It was never established that the projectiles from Tippit's body had in fact been fired from Lee's S&W revolver
B) Although it appears that the spent shells that were presented were fired in Lee's S&W revolver......There is NO PROOF that they are the same shells that were found widely scattered around the Tippit murder scene.  As a matter of fact it appears that the shells ARE NOT the shells from the Tippit scane.
C) All of the witnesses who saw the killer during the shooting or leaving the area said that he was using a revolver that required that one shell at a time be extracted.....  A S&W revolver ejects all shells in the cylinder at once.....They are NOT extracted ONE AT A TIME.     Thus it's obvious that the killer was not using a S&W revolver.

There are more facts but that should be enough for anybody with a functioning brain.......

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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #70 on: September 26, 2021, 09:13:31 PM »
No weapon at all needed to convict as long as the jury believes Markham


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Re: Was Lee Oswald questioned about the murder of JD Tippit?
« Reply #71 on: September 26, 2021, 09:55:17 PM »
No weapon at all needed to convict as long as the jury believes Markham


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No weapon at all needed to convict as long as the jury believes Markham


Markham's testimony has been posted many times and it is far less than conclusive....  But I guess  vague is good enough for the LNer contingent..... 

And it's very typical of a LNer to ignore and dismiss witnesses who basically said that the killer was NOT using a S&W revolver.