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Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #28 on: August 28, 2021, 12:56:38 AM »
Sirhan was apprehended at the scene with the smoking gun literally in his hand.  He did it.  He is a self-confessed terrorist.  Even if you want to believe others were involved, it makes no difference as to his guilt and motivation.

If he was under hypnosis or drugged and there was a second gunman, he’s innocent.

And there’s evidence suggesting that he was not lucid at the time when he was arrested.

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2021, 01:02:17 AM »
If he was under hypnosis or drugged and there was a second gunman, he’s innocent.

And there’s evidence suggesting that he was not lucid at the time when he was arrested.

Huh?  He was arrested at the scene with a smoking gun.  I'm not sure what not being "lucid" has to do with this.  He claimed that he was drunk.  So what?  If you think Sirhan was under some type of CIA Manchurian Candidate mind control, that is far out stuff.  Do you think anyone in their right frame of mind shoots a US Senator running for president?

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #30 on: August 28, 2021, 01:21:21 AM »
I wonder if the governor will make a decision before his recall election in September. And how this might or might not affect his chances of staying in office. Some say that the recall election is going to be close. I think all this was orchestrated in the name of politics. I believe that the LA district attorney should have done his job and been represented at the parole hearing as against parole (as has been done in the previous 15 hearings). The whole thing is ridiculous and reeks of partisan politics.

Gascon was kicked out of SF for being too liberal.  That should tell you something.  Crime in that city increased 50% while he was there.  He is an empty the prisons socialist.  Relying on Newsom to do the right thing is an act of desperation.   

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #31 on: August 28, 2021, 01:36:40 AM »
Huh?  He was arrested at the scene with a smoking gun.  I'm not sure what not being "lucid" has to do with this.  He claimed that he was drunk.  So what?  If you think Sirhan was under some type of CIA Manchurian Candidate mind control, that is far out stuff.  Do you think anyone in their right frame of mind shoots a US Senator running for president?

Sirhan was never behind Kennedy but Kennedy was shot from behind.

The fact that he was arrested on the scene with a gun doesn’t prove others weren’t involved.

One of the men he shot, Paul Schrade, believes it was a conspiracy and lobbied for Sirhan’s parole…

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Featured_Paul_Schrade_at_Sirhan_Sirhan_Parole_Hearing.html
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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #32 on: August 28, 2021, 02:29:35 AM »
Sirhan was never behind Kennedy but Kennedy was shot from behind.

The fact that he was arrested on the scene with a gun doesn’t prove others weren’t involved.

One of the men he shot, Paul Schrade, believes it was a conspiracy and lobbied for Sirhan’s parole…

https://www.maryferrell.org/pages/Featured_Paul_Schrade_at_Sirhan_Sirhan_Parole_Hearing.html

RFK turned away when he saw Sirhan pointing the gun at him. There is no credible proof of a second shooter.  None.  But even if you believed that, Sirhan was an assassin.  A second shooter would not absolve him of that guilt.

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #33 on: August 28, 2021, 02:40:28 AM »
Gascon was kicked out of SF for being too liberal.  That should tell you something.  Crime in that city increased 50% while he was there.  He is an empty the prisons socialist.  Relying on Newsom to do the right thing is an act of desperation.

I agree that the governor will most likely want to set him free. But I wonder if he will be recalled before he gets around to it. If he proceeds to set him free before the recall vote, will it tend to “add fuel to the fire” of the recall movement? I usually stay away from politics, but I firmly believe that politics is the motivation behind the LA DA’s ridiculous decision to not oppose the parole.

Offline Jon Banks

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Re: Sirhan Sirhan may be released tomorrow
« Reply #34 on: August 28, 2021, 03:07:12 AM »
RFK turned away when he saw Sirhan pointing the gun at him. There is no credible proof of a second shooter.  None.  But even if you believed that, Sirhan was an assassin.  A second shooter would not absolve him of that guilt.

Life is so much simpler when you can dismiss inconvenient evidence.

It's broadly agreed that the LAPD did a shoddy investigation. Evidence was destroyed or disappeared. The autopsy suggests that RFK was shot from behind at close range.

Most witnesses say Sirhan wasn't close enough to shoot RFK behind the ear.

The Washington Post has done surprisingly great coverage on RFK's murder:

"Sirhan was captured in the pantry, but seemed unusually calm in police custody and seemed to have no idea why he was arrested, authors who have listened to his taped statements have said.

In addition, his .22-caliber pistol could hold only eight bullets. But in addition to the four shots into Kennedy and five into the victims — one bullet was theorized to have hit two people — other bullets were found in the wood frames of doors in the pantry. Los Angeles police criminalist De Wayne Wolfer would later say that there were no bullets in the frames and that the holes had been made by the impact of kitchen carts. In 1969, the police destroyed the frames, even though the case was on appeal.

Pease and others argue that there were simply “too many holes” in the pantry for Sirhan to have been a lone gunman, and that witnesses were certain the holes in the frames were caused by bullets. She even found a video in an archive at the University of California at Los Angeles that appears to show bullets in the frames. Wolfer’s work as a crime scene analyst was later harshly discredited by California authorities.

But Sirhan’s defense team elected not to challenge any of the physical evidence, ignoring the autopsy report by famed coroner Thomas Noguchi showing the Kennedy shots were fired just inches from his back and head...

Not long after the trial, a ballistics expert examined the three bullets recovered from the scene and found that they did not match Sirhan’s gun. A subsequent retesting was done, but the bullet removed from Kennedy’s neck by Noguchi had vanished, and no ballistics match was ever made between the bullets and Sirhan’s eight-shot pistol."


https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2019/02/09/cia-may-have-used-contractor-who-inspired-mission-impossible-kill-rfk-new-book-alleges/
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