Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?

[Walt Cakebread]

One post--the one in question, between the west wall and west service elevator--has its south side13 feet from the north wall. All the rest of the posts to the east of this one post shows the posts centered on 13 feet. So are we going to take your word for one post being out of alignment with all the other posts? Maybe somebody should contact the Museum to measure the distance?



The interior column on the west wall is centered on 13 feet. So a few feet for the row of boxes that were to the north of the rifle in the Crime Lab photos. The north side of Pallet Group "A" must be some five feet south of the pillar, or about 18-19 feet from the north wall.

I can't believe that Uh-ho Beck and you believe the rifle was beneath the pallet and that Weitzman was literally lying on the floor with his face on that dirty oily floor. Do you both also believe that Boone, Weitzman and Studebaker lied that the rifle location was undisturbed before the taking of the in situ photos?

Jerry LOOK at Srubakers plat ......ALL of the support posts are at the same distance from the north wall.... ( naturally.....They support the E/W ceiling beam )

Count the number of squares from the north wall to the south side of the support posts....There are 13  squares.....each square  represents one foot...very imple....    The south side of the post was 13 feet from the north wall ....     The DPD in situ photo shows the rifle jammed between boxes .....the south side of the box is a little less than 14 feet from the north wall....and Studebaker and others measured the distance from that north wall to the rifle at 15' 4".....

[Walt Cakebread]

The pallets were made from wood. Wooden flats are a type of sandal or seedling bed. I think Weitzman was referring to a collection of the same item when he said "flat", so it would be one of the three separate pallet groups.

What Weitzman said is not clearcut, and he later said "I was behind this section of books", not laying face to the floor. Meanwhile, you have Boone, Weitzman and Studebaker lying under oath when they said the Crime Lab photographs show the Carcano in situ.

Are you claiming the Sheriff's Office planted the rifle? No, so far you lack the courage of your convictions. The police had found the shells and there was no report of a man found in or near-to the building with a rifle. Just standard police investigative procedure.

I think he means all the officers on that floor had walked by the location when they arrived. The rifle was fully hidden from anyone at the stairway entrance who arrived from below.

Sure, easy to see if I'm elevated and south of the row of boxes.



Can you see the rifle as you leave the stairwell and walk by the row of boxes?

Cherry-pick.

   Mr. BALL. Do you have any pictures of the boxes before they were moved other than those you have showed me?
   Mr. STUDEBAKER. Just these two.
   Mr. BALL. Just the two that show the cartons, and those are Exhibits A and B?
   Mr. STUDEBAKER. We have probably got one down there I can get you that is a lot better print than that. If you want a better print, I can get it for you.
   Mr. BALL. Then, you don't have any pictures taken of the boxes before they were moved?
   Mr. STUDEBAKER. No.

And it doesn't apply to the NW corner cartons.

Are you claiming the Sheriff's Office planted the rifle?

I believe if you'll do a little research, you'll find that it was DPD Captain Fritz who was in charge.....And it was Capt Fritz who said " Keep looking,  I want that rifle and it has to be here somewhere"....    Fritz KNEW the rifle was there.....He knew the plot to murder JFK and frame the little commie rat who had defected to Russia a few years prior to Nov 63.  Fritz knew the rifle was behind the box with the huge asterisk scrawled on it at the top of the stairs.....

[Richard Smith]

Where did I say there was?

Let's see.   You posted the following on this thread:

"Did you know there are different accounts of how the clipboard was recovered?"

When it is noted in response that there were not different accounts of how the clipboard was recovered you responded:  "Where did I say there was?" 

Amazing.

[Bill Chapman]

Are you claiming the Sheriff's Office planted the rifle?

I believe if you'll do a little research, you'll find that it was DPD Captain Fritz who was in charge.....And it was Capt Fritz who said " Keep looking,  I want that rifle and it has to be here somewhere"....    Fritz KNEW the rifle was there.....He knew the plot to murder JFK and frame the little commie rat who had defected to Russia a few years prior to Nov 63.  Fritz knew the rifle was behind the box with the huge asterisk scrawled on it at the top of the stairs.....

 

If Fritz knew where the rifle was, then why didn't he simply go and get it instead of running back and forth from floor to floor — as he stated in testimony.

Maybe he just didn't get the memo from your plotters..

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BONUS EDIT for
OSWALD ARSE
KISSERS 
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Maybe an asterisk
should be placed on
your forehead along
with the lengthy list
of your fabrications.

[Richard Smith]

Indeed.

What you now claim was responded was not what you actually said originally.

Rookie mistake.

Whew. 

[Richard Smith]

Indeed.

Nice little swap you have going there, "found" - > "recovered".

Who do you think you're fooling?

How about just spelling out whatever point you are trying to make for once instead of playing a thousand questions?  There is no ambiguity about the clipboard.  Kaiser confirmed that he had made it and that Oswald used it.  Kaiser found it on the 6th floor after the TSBD employees were allowed to return to work.  He brought it the attention of his supervisors and FBI.  What about this are you taking issue with?  Are you suggesting there is doubt about this being the clipboard that Oswald used and/or that Kaiser's story is false?  This is not a trick question.

[Sean Kneringer]

Makes perfect sense. The longer it takes the authorities to find your rifle and trace it back to you, the more time you have to escape.