Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?

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Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #42 on: August 03, 2021, 05:01:32 PM »
Of course Klein's didn't advertise the Carcano-with-scope as ready for competition precision shooting. The purchaser could adjust the scope mounting screws to suit, or compensate his aim with hold over/hold off.

For the short distances in Dealey Plaza, the iron sights could have been used. A 4X rifle scope was all that was used by WWII snipers and they didn't "zero" before taking kill shots.

Jerry, these are nothing but weak attempts to prop up a lie.......The evidence indicates that the carcano was not the murder weapon, and it hadn't been fired that day.

Online Gerry Down

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #43 on: August 03, 2021, 05:10:51 PM »
Of course Klein's didn't advertise the Carcano-with-scope as ready for competition precision shooting. The purchaser could adjust the scope mounting screws to suit, or compensate his aim with hold over/hold off.

For the short distances in Dealey Plaza, the iron sights could have been used. A 4X rifle scope was all that was used by WWII snipers and they didn't "zero" before taking kill shots.

What do you mean they didn't zero the scope in in WW2. All scopes would have to be zeroed in.

Offline Bill Chapman

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #44 on: August 03, 2021, 05:40:13 PM »

BILL CHAPMAN


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BONUS TIP for
HIGH SCHOOL
DROP-OUTS (aka
OSWALD ARSE
KISSERS ;D

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> THE CARCANO WAS
BATTLE ZEROED OUT
TO 200 METERS
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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #45 on: August 03, 2021, 06:14:34 PM »
They may have zeroed in the scope when not in action. But did they "zero" in their scope while in the field and making kill shots?

First they had to contact the enemy: Imagine John Cleese in a Monty Python skit: "I say, old chap, would you mind holding your position while I zero in on you? You will? There's a good fellow... and awfully sporting of you, I must say!"
« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 06:21:16 PM by Bill Chapman »

Online Steve M. Galbraith

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #46 on: August 03, 2021, 06:39:17 PM »
First they had to contact the enemy: Imagine John Cleese in a Monty Python skit: "I say, old chap, would you mind holding your position while I zero in on you? You will? There's a good fellow... and awfully sporting of you, I must say!"
True, but I don't believe most combat troops in the field had scopes on their rifles? Right?

If we're talking about rifles with scopes I would guess that that was for snipers? Or in stationary situations where the shooter had time to set up? As you point out, a scope is utterly useless for a firefight/combat situation. So why have one on your rifle?

If you do have a rifle with a scope I would think they'd zero in first? They're shooting at stationary targets and not engaged in a firefight type situation.
« Last Edit: August 03, 2021, 06:52:47 PM by Steve M. Galbraith »

Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #47 on: August 03, 2021, 07:12:50 PM »
My question went unanswered.

I can wait.

Used the clipboard when?

Three invoices were noted on this clipboard, each dated November 22, for Scott-Foresman books, located on the first and sixth floors.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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Re: Does Hiding a Rifle You Plan On Leaving Anyway Really Make Sense?
« Reply #48 on: August 03, 2021, 07:13:13 PM »
True, but I don't believe most combat troops in the field had scopes on their rifles? Right?

If we're talking about rifles with scopes I would guess that that was for snipers? Or in stationary situations where the shooter had time to set up? As you point out, a scope is utterly useless for a firefight/combat situation. So why have one on your rifle?

If you do have a rifle with a scope I would think they'd zero in first? They're shooting at stationary targets and not engaged in a firefight type situation.

This discussion is silly nonsense....Of course scopes were rare back in WWII.......  According to Richard Hobbs who is an expert on the Carcano....."The Italian Army did not issue a rifle with a scope for their sniper use.  They were issued accuracy marked rifles . The accuracy mark is crossed rifles in front of a target . This mark would be stamped on a rifle when it went through the test firing for final proofing, if the rifle proved to be extremely accurate."."

The silly debate is nothing but a diversion from the fact that the carcano that was carefully hidden beneath the pallet of books at the NW corner of the 6th floorwas NOT the murder weapon.....  ( It was already well hidden beneath that pallet of books at the time of the murder. )