Who's this guy in Alyea footage

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Offline Alan Ford

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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #7 on: April 30, 2021, 01:46:39 AM »


Mr X in this clip is behind Mr Ochus Campbell.

There is a small storage room in the vicinity (to the east) of where these gentlemen are standing.

We are approx. 10 minutes post-assassination here
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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #8 on: April 30, 2021, 10:01:59 AM »


IF this is indeed Mr Lovelady, then he will shortly pop back outside to have a cigarette (Hughes/Martin films)

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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #9 on: April 30, 2021, 10:22:07 AM »


IF this is indeed Mr Lovelady, then he will shortly pop back outside to have a cigarette (Hughes/Martin films)

I agree his facial features are similar to Lovelady's but there is definitely enough detail in the footage to show his check shirt.
The guy in the clip seems to be wearing a single coloured shirt, a quite dark colour.
And then, of course, there is this guy:


How many unrecognised "workers" are wondering around the TSBD after the building is locked down.
This is the guy I have down as Dougherty (and Rowland's man-with-rifle)


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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #10 on: April 30, 2021, 11:46:20 AM »
Regarding the second unidentified man (in the white shirt/top).
This footage was taken on the sixth floor looking at the window between the stairway and the west elevator.
In the foreground we see Fritz listening to one of his men.
Behind them is the man I believe is Dougherty:

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, when the FBI men---I imagine it was who it was---he showed me his credentials, but he asked me who the manager was, and I told him, "Mr. Truly." He told me to go find him. Well, I didn't know where he was so I started from the first floor and Just started looking for him, and by the time I got to the sixth floor, they had found a gun and shells.
Mr. BALL - When you went up to the sixth floor, it was after they found the shotgun and shells?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir;

If it is Dougherty in the clip it must have been taken after the shells and rifle had been found.


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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #11 on: May 04, 2021, 10:11:49 PM »
I agree his facial features are similar to Lovelady's but there is definitely enough detail in the footage to show his check shirt.
The guy in the clip seems to be wearing a single coloured shirt, a quite dark colour.

If it's not Mr Lovelady, then the only other realistic candidate is Mr Oswald. But I still lean much more to Mr Lovelady
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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #12 on: May 04, 2021, 10:12:27 PM »
Regarding the second unidentified man (in the white shirt/top).
This footage was taken on the sixth floor looking at the window between the stairway and the west elevator.
In the foreground we see Fritz listening to one of his men.
Behind them is the man I believe is Dougherty:

Mr. DOUGHERTY - Well, when the FBI men---I imagine it was who it was---he showed me his credentials, but he asked me who the manager was, and I told him, "Mr. Truly." He told me to go find him. Well, I didn't know where he was so I started from the first floor and Just started looking for him, and by the time I got to the sixth floor, they had found a gun and shells.
Mr. BALL - When you went up to the sixth floor, it was after they found the shotgun and shells?
Mr. DOUGHERTY - Yes, sir;

If it is Dougherty in the clip it must have been taken after the shells and rifle had been found.

Mr Lovelady also went up to six around this time. I think it's probably him in both clips
« Last Edit: May 04, 2021, 10:13:13 PM by Alan Ford »

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Re: Who's this guy in Alyea footage
« Reply #13 on: May 05, 2021, 03:06:01 AM »
Mr Lovelady also went up to six around this time. I think it's probably him in both clips

One is wearing dark clothing and the other light clothing.
How does that work?