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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #136 on: August 25, 2021, 09:07:13 PM »
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A hastily contrived script versus The Plain Simple Truth ---->

Horse manure ---->

*The wrongly-accused lurked in ambush to fire upon the president  ::)
*Then amid his hasty escape, the wrongly-accused wasn't observed in a small storage room on the 1st floor immediately after the cowardly ambush on a duly elected representative of The People. 
*Instead, he took immediate flight to get out of Dodge via public transportation...
*He gets on a bus, asks for a bus-transfer yada, yada, yada.
*Further embellishing the hastily contrived script, words are put into his mouth...He says this; he says that; he does this; he does that or so the horse manure reek spreads...

The Plain Simple Truth ---->

The wrongly-accused stands outside, manning the position the only unidentified male figure out on those front steps holds down.

He is seen in a short time, during the immediate aftermath of shots reverberating in Dealey Plaza, near a small storage room down on the first floor at the front-entrance side of the building.

He comes to the aid of Inspector Sawyer (no other male employee's experience during the immediate aftermath comes even close to being near the small storage room & front-entrance passenger elevators).

After coming to the aid of Inspector Sawyer, he ventures back outside, stopping briefly at the front-entrance door to point out where a rookie news reporter entering the building could find a telephone inside.

Ventures further out into the Autumn crisp air, scans the chaotic scene unfolding in front of him, spies his supervisor, Mr. Shelley, standing down on lower Elm Street. Walks down the front stairs towards him, then stands down there w/him for, quote, 5-10 minutes, unquote.

Mr. Mentesana's home video records this. It's him...in plain sight.

       

The Plain Simple Truth
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« Reply #137 on: August 25, 2021, 09:24:58 PM »
All for now gentlemen, back later this week to reengage. Best wishes to all to remain well, healthy & safe, free of any potential exposure to any COVID-19 variants still lingering about. 

*self-reminder: take a much closer examination of Bureau agent Robert Barrett, his whereabouts, activities, etc on that fateful afternoon.

*Also, in the spirit of an open mind, given Mr. Cakebread's contribution, will look into the possibility of the wrongly-accused taking public transportation aside from the horse manure spread about Mr. McWatter's bus & Mr. Whaley's coerced "evidence".

Could he have taken public-transportation at a much later time? Was there a timing-sequence challenge to the hastily contrived script to overcome, thus enter the horse manure about the false means (McWatters & Whaley) purposely scripted at an earlier time to embellish the false narrative starring him at the events of 10th & Patton...

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« Reply #138 on: August 25, 2021, 11:59:10 PM »
Appreciate your contribution, Mr. Cakebread, and am certainly open to learning about any other means of transportation save for the horse manure about Mr. McWatter's bus,  and Mr. Whaley's coerced "evidence". 

The Truth is a beautiful thing to behold, quite the opposite of a hastily contrived script mired in the stench of horse manure amid hasty assumptions/knee-jerk conclusions in order to Frame an innocent party.

Briefly in a nut shell.....according to the tale,   Lee had a nearly pristine bus transfer in his possession at the time of his interrogation.

I seriously doubt that the transfer was in his shirt pocket at the theater because the cops nearly ripped that shirt off his back. Therefore any flimsy  paper bus transfer would not have remained in pristine condition.   

I strongly suspect that Lee got the transfer when he exited the bus and he placed it his shirt pocket.  ( he thoght that he could use it to board another bus to take him to the rooming house, but it was never used...He caught a CITY cab and rode in the cab to the rooming house.  When he changed his clothes the transfer remained in his dis card shirt pocket where it remained in good condition.  As I recall the transfer first emerges into the evidence stream at about 6:00 O'clock that evening.  This would be after Lee's possessions from the rooming house were brought to DPD headquarters.   I believe that's where the bus transfer was found. 

Lee may have originally thought that he could use the transfer after he left the rooming house to catch a bus to take him to near the theater ( Jefferson & Zangs) But he forgot the transfer that was in the shirt pocket at the rooming house.   You may recall that Mrs Roberts said that Lee was looking up Zangs. He could possibly looking to see if the south bound bus was in sight.
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Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #139 on: August 26, 2021, 12:19:08 AM »
All for now gentlemen, back later this week to reengage. Best wishes to all to remain well, healthy & safe, free of any potential exposure to any COVID-19 variants still lingering about. 

*self-reminder: take a much closer examination of Bureau agent Robert Barrett, his whereabouts, activities, etc on that fateful afternoon.

*Also, in the spirit of an open mind, given Mr. Cakebread's contribution, will look into the possibility of the wrongly-accused taking public transportation aside from the horse manure spread about Mr. McWatter's bus & Mr. Whaley's coerced "evidence".

Could he have taken public-transportation at a much later time? Was there a timing-sequence challenge to the hastily contrived script to overcome, thus enter the horse manure about the false means (McWatters & Whaley) purposely scripted at an earlier time to embellish the false narrative starring him at the events of 10th & Patton...

*self-reminder: take a much closer examination of Bureau agent Robert Barrett,

You'll be scrutinizing one of Hoover's lap dog's.  ( Hoover's extra special--- special agent)   I believe that you'll find that Mr Barrett was already in the Texas theater when Lee arrived there.....   If that's true...Then the logical question is:....   What the hell was he doing there??
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« Reply #140 on: August 26, 2021, 12:34:00 AM »
I seriously doubt that the transfer was in his shirt pocket at the theater because the cops nearly ripped that shirt off his back. Therefore any flimsy  paper bus transfer would not have remained in pristine condition.   

The bus transfer was not in Pristine condition and was folded, and the shirt pockets on Oswald's shirt show absolutely no sign of being torn or ripped, they are literally pristine!







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« Reply #141 on: August 26, 2021, 12:50:10 AM »
The bus transfer was not in Pristine condition and was folded, and the shirt pockets on Oswald's shirt show absolutely no sign of being torn or ripped, they are literally pristine!







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Wrong shirt ...dumb bell....   

This is NOT the reddish brown shirt with the button down collar that Lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning, and which he left in the rooming house room.   Read Detective Potts list of the items that were removed from the rooming house room.

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« Reply #142 on: August 26, 2021, 01:19:55 AM »
Wrong shirt ...dumb bell....   

This is NOT the reddish brown shirt with the button down collar that Lee was wearing at the TSBD that morning, and which he left in the rooming house room.   Read Detective Potts list of the items that were removed from the rooming house room.

Thanks for your opinion but the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested, In the following collage you can even count the differing shaded threads and the corresponding shaded areas. Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?



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Offline Jerry Organ

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« Reply #143 on: August 26, 2021, 01:33:56 AM »
Thanks for your opinion but the shirt in evidence is the same one Oswald was wearing when arrested, In the following collage you can even count the differing shaded threads and the corresponding shaded areas. Btw what is your real purpose here and who's paying you?

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Russian dis-info. He's pro-Trump. And they gave him a Brit-centric name.