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[Dan O'meara]

I believe "Lakewood" is just a designation of the "line" that the transfer was issued on (as explained in a somewhat complicated fashion by McWatters).  The transfer was valid for a very limited duration and could be used at a transfer point as explained by David Belin:  https://www.fordlibrarymuseum.gov/library/document/0393/23811297.pdf

Mr. McWATTERS - On here. Well, if it is in the morning or in the afternoon, here is your a.m., or your p.m. In other words, it is before 12:45, in other words, we consider up to 12:45 a.m., in other words, that is the way they are.
In other words, I would punch it in the a.m. side of it, and if it was in the afternoon, in other words, after that, it would be a p.m. transfer, and whatever line that you are working has the name on it right here.
In other words, at that time that transfer I had punched was punched a p.m. Lakewood, in other words, because I was coming from the Lakewood addition is the way that was punched on the transfer.
Mr. BALL - Well now, do you punch the transfer when the passenger asks for it?
Mr. McWATTERS - No. No, sir; in other words, when you leave this, you are inbound when you are going into town or when you are going, in other words, out of town, in other words.
I was coming in, in other words, when I got in Lakewood Addition I set my transfers for downtown.

So, the Lakewood "line" starts in Lakewood and has a termination point somewhere and Oswald would be free to use his transfer only on the Lakewood "line", that same day, until it's no longer "PM".
I'm going to try to find out the stops on the Lakewood line to where it terminates as it seems to make sense Oswald brought it with him for a purpose.
If he changed shirts he deliberately took the transfer with him.

[Richard Smith]

So, the Lakewood "line" starts in Lakewood and has a termination point somewhere and Oswald would be free to use his transfer only on the Lakewood "line", that same day, until it's no longer "PM".
I'm going to try to find out the stops on the Lakewood line to where it terminates as it seems to make sense Oswald brought it with him for a purpose.
If he changed shirts he deliberately took the transfer with him.

The Belin memo provides more specifics.  It appears that the transfer was valid until 1:15 or until the next scheduled bus if that did not occur until after 1:15.  Belin notes a transfer point on Jefferson which he indicates is the "only" transfer point that can be used after leaving downtown Dallas and only three blocks from the scene of the Tippit shooting.  A number of buses could be caught there.

[Dan O'meara]

The Belin memo provides more specifics.  It appears that the transfer was valid until 1:15 or until the next scheduled bus if that did not occur until after 1:15.  Belin notes a transfer point on Jefferson which he indicates is the "only" transfer point that can be used after leaving downtown Dallas and only three blocks from the scene of the Tippit shooting.  A number of buses could be caught there.

Nice one Richard.
The main thing that has bothered me since I started looking into the Tippit murder was a distinct feeling Oswald was heading somewhere very specific when he left the rooming house and that he was in a hurry to get there. The limited timespan of the ticket would cause the need for haste and the very limited amount of money he had on him would account for his need to get there on foot if he were to need the money elsewhere.
The Belin memo provides a tantalising possibility for his movements.
If Tippit had not shown up Oswald might have made his connection and been on the beginning of his journey across the border.

[Alan J. Ford]

The CTer "mind" and use of "logic" are curious things to behold.  Here we learn that because a bus transfer found in Oswald's possession is allegedly pristine that means it must have been planted. 

*My response: It was planted, otherwise--given the photos shared here by Mr. Chapman of the wrongly accused's torn & tattered shirt in Post 9--it would have bore considerable tearing, crinkling, etc. It doesn't, so that means it has more magical powers than the magic-bullet (please excuse the eye-roll) or it was planted akin to the shell casings ---->

Mr. BELIN. When did you get over to the southeast corner of the sixth floor?
Mr. TRULY. That I can't answer. I don't remember when I went over there. It was sometime before I learned that they had found either the rifle or the spent shell cases.

Again, in their haste to frame the wrongly accused they simply overlooked the small but important detail upon planting that bus transfer "evidence" upon him loooong after that intense physical altercation...

A dubious subjective claim.  And we are left to ponder why the conspirators need to put Oswald on a random bus that goes nowhere...

*My response: On the contrary, they had little choice but to imply he was at 10th & Patton, thus their hastily contrived script about his means of transportation to get there. Framed at Dealey Plaza and also Framed at 10th & Patton.

 There is no way that any conspirator goes through this risky charade simply to put Oswald on the bus to nowhere.  It is laughable when viewed through the narrative of a fake event supported only by the subjective assessment that the bus transfer should not be "pristine."
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*Reread my above responses...they Framed him in Dealey Plaza and also at 10th & Patton, thus creating horse manure to get him there was necessary. However, as runs rampant in their haste to frame the wrongly accused they overlooked the small yet very important details. The wrongly accused did Not shoot anybody. Anybody.

[Alan J. Ford]

Good afternoon, Mr. Unger, first things first, the research community certainly owes you a great deal of gratitude for your exemplary photographic archives, so add my thanks & appreciation to all the rest.

Now, Do you care to elaborate on the gentleman you highlighted; and, his significance as it relates to the still-frame captured by Mr. Mentesana...

[Alan J. Ford]

The only problem with the "pristine" bus transfer is, it actually isn't! Doh!

The back of Oswald's bus transfer shows numerous creases


Mr. BALL - Did your punch mark have a distinctive mark?
Mr. McWATTERS - It had a distinctive mark and it is registered, in other words, all the drivers, every driver has a different punch mark.
Mr. BALL - What makes it different?
Mr. McWATTERS - Well, it is, it would be, the symbol of it or angle, in other words, every one; it is different, in other words.
Mr. BALL - You have a punch there?
Mr. McWATTERS - Yes, sir; I have the punch right here.
Mr. BALL - Is that the punch that you used?
Mr. McWATTERS - That is the punch I used.
Mr. BALL - Will you punch a piece of paper and show us?
Mr. McWATTERS - In other words, that is the type of punch that this one makes right here, in other words.
Mr. BALL - That is a different type of punch than any other driver has?
Mr. McWATTERS - Any driver, in other words.
Mr. BALL - On any bus in Dallas?
Mr. McWATTERS - In other words, the superintendent has a list, in other words, it would be just like this and every man has a punch and he has his name, and everything. In other words, if anyone calls in about a transfer or anything, I mean brings one in he can look right down the list by the punch mark and tell whose punch it is, and who it is registered to.
Mr. BALL - Now, the sample of your punch there has been on a piece of paper and we would like to have it marked as 372 at this time.
(The paper referred to was marked Commission Exhibit No. 372 and received in evidence.)



JohnM

2014: Mr. Mytton defending the hastily contrived script.
2021: Mr. Mytton still defending the hastily contrived script.

Can't knock your consistency sir. However, ask yourself a few simple questions--given the image you shared--and be as honest/objective as possible ---->

*Do you find it just a little bit strange that all those clock-punches align so nicely?

well, manufactured "evidence" always seem to...

C'mon--given that intense physical altercation with not one, not two, not three, not four, but five adrenline pumped officers ripping and tearing his shirt this way and that way, while pummeling him those "punches" alone wouldn't align, let alone the bus transfer be void of ripping and major tearing after that intense struggle.

*Take an honest look at the photos of the wrongly accused's torn shirt shared by Mr. Chapman in Post 9, and explain to those reading along how buttons--of much higher material-quality--have been torn off the shirt in at least two places that all of us can clearly see, yet those "punches" align so perfectly on mere paper...

manufactured "evidence" always seems to align perfectly when framing an innocent party.

*Lastly,  take an honest look at the wrongly accused's shirt pockets and explain to the rest of us how two officers (their words, not mine) grasped him in the front amid that intense struggle and finally was able to push him down. How did the bus transfer void tearing with that much adrenaline in the tight grips of those officers from the front of the wrongly accused, let alone the two officers on either side of him pulling and ripping his shirt in opposite directions...

I'm all ears Mr. Mytton. However, fair warning I'm no longer, what was that Mr. MacRae use to call me in 2014 when I dared to enter the fray, the "rookie of the year"; and, remember, this time you don't have the luxury of the late Gary Mack (RIP) sending me a flood of PM's telling an impressionable rookie, quote, "You got this wrong Kid, you got that wrong Kid".  Again, as honestly as you can in an objective manner--no CT this or that sir--just account for why that mere paper transfer isn't akin to mere paper involved in an intense physical altercation, fair enough?

[Alan J. Ford]

Good afternoon gentlemen,

While we await an honest, objective response from Mr. Mytton, convincing those of us reading along how that mere paper bus transfer voided tearing while the much higher quality material--the buttons--suffered extensive damage, please let me share briefly the difference between the truth and a hastily contrived script.

Unlike a hastily contrived script, the plain simple truth rests upon a solid foundation, requiring no revision(s), do-overs, nor phantom bus rides, bogus manufactured bus-transfers or fictitious cab rides either. The wrongly accused told his interrogators his legitimate actions and whereabouts on that fateful afternoon back in November, 1963. Because he was telling them the truth there would be no audio recording of his statements...just their hastily contrived, scripted narrative mired in the stench of horse manure.

Looooong after their false-narrative about a hasty escape, the wrongly accused was still in Dealey Plaza:

*coming to the aid of Inspector Sawyer on the first floor near the passenger elevator (12:34PM)

*coming to the aid of a rookie news reporter, telling him where he could find a phone to use, as he himself exited the building via the front entrance (the rookie reporter's words, not mine (12:36/37 +/- 1 minute.

*standing outside with his immediate supervisor, Mr. Shelley (Bill) for, quote, "5-10 minutes" (12:37-12:42/49 +/- 5 minutes) which--given the still-frame from Mr. Mentesana's filming experience--we do indeed actually see two men standing there together with an uncanny resemblance to both the wrongly accused and Mr. Shelley. It is no coincidence that the man in the business suit is dressed in the same manner as Mr. Shelley; and, it s no coincidence that the man standing there next to him is in the wrongly accused's clothing colours from top to bottom...once again, top to bottom...last time, top to bottom.

It is no coincidence that the man in the business suit is Mr. Shelley's height and furthermore his overall build as well (if you have time watch the Shelley, Arce and Williams arrest video and compare Mr. Shelley's dress, height and overall build). At 12:42/47 PM +/- 5 minutes either way the wrongly accused is nowhere near 10th & Patton folks...not even close.

No wonder there isn't any audio recording of the multiple interrogation sessions w/the wrongly accused, otherwise the hastily contrived script would have been exposed for what it is: manufactured "evidence" to frame an innocent party. Back next week G-d willing, meanwhile best to all to remain safe, well & healthy amid the lingering pandemic challenges we all face.

The wrongly accused did not shoot anybody. Anybody.