This is what Oswald died for...

[Jerry Freeman]

I think your tongue was somewhere else. You should use some mouthwash now.

                                                                   

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

                                                                   

I think that it is a fair question to ask whether LHO (Hickey actually)(i think LHO's slug wasnt deadly) did us a favor.
What would the world be like if JFK lived?
Theusofa is based on having winners & loozers. The strong flourish, the weak die.
Well, that same system applies to countries.
Oswald praps wanted a usofa where there were no loozers (well, ok, one loozer).
But if theusofa dies then all are loozers.
Theusofa started with a lie, followed by the murder of natives, followed by war on Mexico.
Its a wonder that the sniper's nest wasnt crowded.
 

[Joe Elliott]

China is not purely socialist but they definitely don’t have a Free Market either.

They have a planned economy and heavy wealth redistribution. They’ve found ways to allow private business and property ownership within their system but they’re still proudly socialist.

In LHO’s time, China was still very poor and the USSR was a joke even to Oswald who ridiculed them.

On the larger question, “Can a Socialist economy be successful”, we need an example on an economy that is socialist and successful. Showing an economy with some socialist control, but also a good deal of free enterprise is no good. How do we know their economic success was from the free enterprise aspects of their economy, and not the result of government control of the economy? How do we know their successes have occurred despite government interference, not because of them?

There are no examples of a successful socialist economy. Such a critter is as mythical as Bigfoot. All real socialist economies, like China’s before 1978, were failures.

[Tom Scully]

On the larger question, “Can a Socialist economy be successful”, we need an example on an economy that is socialist and successful. Showing an economy with some socialist control, but also a good deal of free enterprise is no good. How do we know their economic success was from the free enterprise aspects of their economy, and not the result of government control of the economy? How do we know their successes have occurred despite government interference, not because of them?

There are no examples of a successful socialist economy. Such a critter is as mythical as Bigfoot. All real socialist economies, like China’s before 1978, were failures.

Speaking of "...and successful."

October 1, to December 31, 2020, the final full quarter of the Trump oligarchy.:
https://treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/debttothepenny.htm
Federal Debt increase : Oct. 1 = $27 trillion Dec. 31 = $27.75 trillion
4th qtr. debt increase share of bottom 50 percent = $.37 trillion...personal wealth increase = $.13 trillion
Wealth increase :
Top 1 percent = $2.43 trillion
Next 9 percent = $2.47 trillion
Next 40 percent = $1.34 trillion
Bottom 50 percent = $.13 trillion (165 million residents)
https://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/z1/dataviz/dfa/distribute/chart/
2020 Fourth Qtr. Fed. Reserve Household Wealth Survey vs Third Qtr. -

[Jon Banks]

On the larger question, “Can a Socialist economy be successful”, we need an example on an economy that is socialist and successful. Showing an economy with some socialist control, but also a good deal of free enterprise is no good. How do we know their economic success was from the free enterprise aspects of their economy, and not the result of government control of the economy? How do we know their successes have occurred despite government interference, not because of them?

There are no examples of a successful socialist economy. Such a critter is as mythical as Bigfoot. All real socialist economies, like China’s before 1978, were failures.

There are no purely Capitalist or Socialist economies. Every industrialized nation has a mixed economy. The US is Capitalist-leaning but has a broad social safety-net and financial regulations. China is Socialist-leaning but allows private ownership of businesses and engages in the Free Market outside of China.

However, the PRC today still self-identifies as "Marxist-Leninist". So if one wants to argue that "Socialism never works" they have to address China, Vietnam, Bolivia, and a handful of other countries where Socialist governments have successfully reduced poverty and created healthy economies...

 

[Joe Elliott]

There are no purely Capitalist or Socialist economies. Every industrialized nation has a mixed economy. The US is Capitalist-leaning but has a broad social safety-net and financial regulations. China is Socialist-leaning but allows private ownership of businesses and engages in the Free Market outside of China.

However, the PRC today still self-identifies as "Marxist-Leninist". So if one wants to argue that "Socialism never works" they have to address China, Vietnam, Bolivia, and a handful of other countries where Socialist governments have successfully reduced poverty and created healthy economies...

It is irrelevant to me as to how a country self identifies itself. That fact is that all countries which have economic success own this to the allowing, at least to some extent, the operation of a free market.

Not all governments are a combination of Capitalist and Socialist economies. Before 1978, China was a pure Socialist economy and it failed totally to bring prosperity to its people.

Of course, China can’t identify itself as anything other than a “Marxist-Leninist” government. There have been too many decades of propaganda for them to identify themselves as anything else. Trump can “self-identify” himself as a Pro-Democracy politician who respects the principle of government of the people, by the people and for the people, but that doesn’t make him so. What governments and people “self-identify” themselves as does not matter to me.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

Natives all over the world have been socialist & communist & successful for thousands of years. The Australian aborigines for 50,000 years, until white man came.