Oswald's shot-1 ricochet was at Z113 or Z105.

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #126 on: October 14, 2023, 12:51:03 AM »
Two more pix of the signals.
The slug probly ricocheted off the westernmost side of the westernmost guy rod, the rod might be 3/4" or 1", probly steel pipe but might be solid steel. The slug must have hit very near the collar, hence it could not have hit the large pipe koz then it would have been stopped by the westernmost guy rod.  And the slug could not have hit the easternmost guy rod koz then it would have been stopped by the big pipe.  Drawings or photos of the view from Oswald's window must if they are correct show the collar on a line to the left of the centerline of jfk's neck/head/body, however most films photos drawings show the collar too far right, or they show the collar in the correct location but show jfk too far left.  No, the collar was inches left of jfk. The slug hit a few inches down from the collar.  The slug hit the westernmost guy rod at about where the guy has his hand.



Landis, in his book, says that the 2 (brass) fragments were on the back seat in blood (between Jackie & JFK or ?). This might confirm that Oswald's shot-1 (at say pseudo Z103 or later) ricocheted offa the near (eastern)  side of the western guy-rod, near the collar on the 2" pipe. We know that the lead splatter hit jfk on the back right of his head (xray shows bits stuck in galea). We know that the remnant lead slug made a hole in the floor between Mr & Mrs Connally. We know from ricochet tests that the splatter & the remnant slug & the 2 brass halves (there are always 2) take different angles after ricochet, but i karnt today find the test results. So, somehow, the 2 brass halves finished close together, on the seat.

My thoughts were cut short. I looked at Governor Connally. Seated directly in front of the president, he was slumped to the side.He must have turned at some point. His white shirt had bright red bloodstains. Good God, had he had been hit too, or was he just splattered with the president’s blood? I then realized that he had also been shot, probably by the second bullet, and his body was blocking the right rear door of the limo.

SA Lawson arrived with his gurney, and other agents quickly started to move Governor Connally onto it. Once that task was completed, Mrs. Connally stood up and exited the limo, following the governor’s gurney as they raced toward the emergency entrance.With Governor Connally out of the way, the pathway was clear enough for agents to get to the president. While all of this was happening, Mrs. Kennedy continued to cradle her husband’s head. The president’s body wasn’t going anywhere until Mrs. Kennedy released him. Clint kept urging her to let go, while I scanned the inside of the car and the surrounding
outside area.

The entire scene was crazy and awful. Pieces of pink flesh, gray brain matter, and blood were splattered everywhere. They clung to the backseats and all over the right rear door panel. It was a mess, an ugly, bloody mess. Continuing my surveillance, I looked back toward the follow-up car. It was now empty, and there were no agents in sight.

I returned my attention to the presidential limo. Looking down at the seat beside Mrs. Kennedy, I saw two brass bullet fragments sitting in a pool of bright red blood. I could hardly believe it. They glistened like two gold nuggets in their blood-red surroundings. I bent over, picked up the largest of the two pieces, and examined it. It was about the size of the end of my little finger. It looked like a small mushroom that had been squashed. I quickly replaced it exactly where I had found it.

About then, even though only seconds had passed, Clint finally convinced Mrs. Kennedy to let go of the president’s head. When she released it, someone said, “Cover up his head.” Thinking quickly and without hesitating, Clint removed his suit coat and covered the president’s head and upper torso. None of us wanted anyone to see the president in this condition. Then Clint, ASAIC Kellerman, and SA Lawson were finally able to remove the president’s lifeless body from the backseat area of the limo and place it onto a gurney.

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #127 on: November 21, 2023, 09:59:11 PM »
The Oswald Diet looks to me to be ok for a young guy using lots of energy & on his feet at work all day.
However a good or bad diet depends mainly on the quantity of food rather than quality (within reason).
For guys who are not very active the Oswald Diet would be ok if quantity was kept minimal.
But if u tend to be overwt i would not follow the Oswald Diet, ie i would make changes to the quality, mainly reducing sugar (especially fructose) & flour (carbohydrate).
I see that the diet ideas of Dr Eric Berg (youtube) do not contradict my own general ideas (that i came up with in 1974)(mostly from one book).
Here are my comments re the Oswald Diet.

Breakfast -- For guys who are less active i would agree with Oswald that breakfast is not needed. A cup of coffee is ok (don’t use sugar).

LunchPeanut butter is ok if u are not overwt (9% sugar). Cheese is ok. Lettuce is ok. Avoid fruit (fructose is bad)(carb is bad if overwt). Avoid apple (fructose is bad)(carb). If overwt i would avoid bread (carb)(possible seed reaction). I would avoid Coke&Pepsi (fructose)(carb)(nowadays diet coke might be ok). Bananas are marginal (fructose).
I think that Oswald sometimes bort a hamburger for lunch (but i suspect that Marina was mistaken)(it was for dinner). Anyhow the occasional hamburger is ok (carb)(sugar).
But best to not have any lunch if not very active, just have one meal a day (Dinner).
Exercise -- Lunchtime is good -- eg shoot a president out of season without a permit -- & a brisk walk down several flights of stairs to a bus-stop.

Dinner Meat & veggies are good. I would avoid fruit (fructose) & desert (if sugar)(& if pastry).
I would add fish (daily)(eg sardines).
Me myself i eat raw veggies (ie that dont need cooking)(daily), except that i have fries (potato)(daily)(my favorit food).
Dont overdo the salt (especially if u have hi blood pressure).
Alcohol – Oswald didn’t drink grog, & didn’t smoke.

If Oswald bort lunch near TSBD it would be a hamburger i think.
[edit 4june2022][A caterer sold lunches outside the TSBD at 10 am each workday, & probly sold hamburgers][why would Oswald buy the same old cheese sandwich & apple that he usually got from Marina?]



I have changed my mind re what is a good diet.
Today 22Nov2023 i am going to start on the carnivore diet.
No fruit (i already did that), & no bread or biscuits etc (i already did that), & no sugar (already did that).
And today i start with no veggies.
So, no more potato fries (my favorite)(i have fries almost every day).
No more carrot peas cabbage onion silverbeet.
Lots of bacon smoked ham chicken (free range) fish (wild caught) smoked cod mussel (farm) corned beef steak sausages (all grass fed)(no grain fed), kangaroo, wallaby, eggs (free range), cheese, olive oil (no seed oils)(lard is ok).
I will have salami & cheese every day (evening really, ie dinner)(i never have breakfast)(& i almost never hav lunch).
Cant wait. Starts today, koz my fridge is finally empty. So i am going in to town to do my carnivore shopping.
There is sometimes some roadkill.
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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #128 on: November 23, 2023, 10:41:52 PM »
Here are the timings for Oswald's shot-1 & shot-2 & for a faux shot-3.
87 ft is the horizontal dist scaled by me, 106 ft is the hypotenuse dist allowing for vertical dist estimated by me.

Oswald Shot ----------- hit at ------ fired at  ------ sound hit JFK at – Carcano = 2170 ft per sec.
1 --- 87 ft = 106 ft ----- Z113 ------ Z112.1 ---------- Z113.9 ----- camera runs at 18.3 frames per sec.
2 --- 184 ft = 197 ft---- Z218 ------- Z216.3 --------- Z219.6
3 --- 255 ft = 266 ft ---- Z313 -------- Z310.8 --------- Z315.2 -------- Oswald did not have a shot-3.
The time tween shot-1 & shot-2 is 104.2 frames, which is 5.7 sec. Holland reckoned that shot-1 was at Z106, which is an extra 7 frames, or 0.4 sec, which makes it 6.1 sec.
The time tween shot-2 & faux shot-3 is 94.5 frames, which is 5.2 sec.
Adding to 10.9 sec.

Here are the timings for Hickey's auto burst, based on there being 6 shots.
Hickey Shot ------------- hit at ------ fired at  ------ sound hit JFK at -------
6 ---- 26 ft---------------- Z313 -------- Z312.8 ---------- Z313.2 --- hit JFK in head & cracked windshield.
5 ---- AR15 = 3250 ft per sec------------ Z310.0 ---------- hit chrome trim on windshield.
4 ---- sound = 1100 ft per sec ----------- Z307.25 -------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
3 ---- probly 400 rpm= 6.67 rps --------- Z304.5 ---------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
2 ------------------------------------------- Z301.8 ----------- went over the windshield, hit Elm St.
1 ------------------------------------------- Z299.0 ---- probly hit Main St pavement & then kerb near Tague.
My calculation of Oswald's angles based on above is .....
shot-1 at Z113 is -34.8 deg. If at Holland's Z106 it is still -34.6 deg koz either way it is at the signals.
shot-2 at Z218 is -21.0 deg.
shot-3 at Z312 is -16.6 deg.

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #129 on: November 24, 2023, 07:17:53 AM »
I have changed my mind re what is a good diet.
Today 22Nov2023 i am going to start on the carnivore diet.
No fruit (i already did that), & no bread or biscuits etc (i already did that), & no sugar (already did that).
And today i start with no veggies.
So, no more potato fries (my favorite)(i have fries almost every day).
No more carrot peas cabbage onion silverbeet.
Lots of bacon smoked ham chicken (free range) fish (wild caught) smoked cod mussel (farm) corned beef steak sausages (all grass fed)(no grain fed), kangaroo, wallaby, eggs (free range), cheese, olive oil (no seed oils)(lard is ok).
I will have salami & cheese every day (evening really, ie dinner)(i never have breakfast)(& i almost never hav lunch).
Cant wait. Starts today, koz my fridge is finally empty. So i am going in to town to do my carnivore shopping.
There is sometimes some roadkill.
Today it is known that a carnivore diet cures epilepsy.
The guy who had a fit in Houston just before the motorcade possibly ate too much carb (sugar flour starchy veggies seed oils low fat foods processed foods), even in 1963.
Carnivore eliminates obesity, diabetes, dental cavities, heart disease, artery disease, fatty liver, Parkinson's, Alzheimer's, Dementia, MS, auto immune diseases, bipolar, schizophrenia, depression, anxiety, infertility, cancer, prevents autism in children, etc etc.
It might even fix the BS meters of members here.

If on 22nov2023 an obese Oswald would have taken 2 minutes to get down the stairs, & they would have caught him sitting in the lavatory suffering with his irritable bowel.
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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #131 on: November 29, 2023, 04:15:06 AM »
Patrolman Hargis was left of JFK & Co, Hargis says ……………turning left on Elm St & about 2 or 3 m down Elm St the first shot rang out……

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Re: Oswald's shot-1 was at Z113.
« Reply #132 on: November 29, 2023, 10:50:26 PM »
Shot-2 was at Z218. The headshot was at Z312, ie 94 Z frames later, ie 5.14  sec later (based on 18.3 fps).
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 equaled the gap between shot-2 & Z312 then shot-1 was 94 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z124 (ie 9 frames before Zapruder's sequence starts at Z133).
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 was 50% longer than the following gap then shot-1 was 141 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z077.
If the gap between shot-1 & shot-2 was 100% longer than the following gap then shot-1 was 188 frames earlier, ie at pseudo Z030.

However, not one member in the history of this forum has acknowledged even one atom of this simple truth.
But many members here reckon that the gapage was                       BANG........................................... BANG...................BANG.

If u insist on shot-2 being 4 frames later than Z218, ie at Z222, then Z124 becomes Z128, & Z077 becomes Z083, & Z030 becomes Z038.

Holland's estimate for shot-1 was Z105 or Z107 or somesuch, & i agree with Holland.
Z105 is 113 frames before Z218, which is 20.2% larger than the final gap of 94 frames.
Z105 is 117 frames before Z222, which is 25.6% larger than the final gap of 90 frames (if u insist on shot2 being at Z222 instead of my Z218).

So, Holland has copped a lot of flack on this forum for suggesting that shot-1 was as early as Z105.
But, Z105 only needs gap-1 to be 20.2% larger than gap-2 (or 25.6% larger if u insist on shot-2 being at Z222).

If members are happy with their claims that gap-2 was significantly smaller than gap-1 then members should be happy with Holland's Z105.
Hence gap-1 was 6.17 sec, & gap-2 was 5.14 sec, total 10.31 sec.

The silly estimate of say Z169 for shot-1 means that gap-1 is 49 Z frames (& gap-2 is 94 Z frames), which is           BANG........ BANG................... BANG.        Stupid.
Hence silly gap-1 was 2.68 sec, & gap-2 was 5.14 sec, & the stupid total 7.82 sec.

The above are based on when the shots landed, not when fired, & not when heard.
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