Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.

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Online Marjan Rynkiewicz

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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #28 on: June 08, 2022, 10:41:54 PM »
The Bronson film shows Hickey at a height such that his rifle could not go above the Queen Mary's windshield, let alone the upraised sun-visors.



 

Graphics from the Pat Speer site.

Line drawing of the Hickey shot from the "Mortal Error" book (flipped for
comparison purposes) and superimposed over a Bronson film frame.

The agents shown in the Bronson were seated much lower than the "Mortal Error" drawing showed. Hickey's waistline would be about the level of the car-rail.
My Bronson thread deals with this.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.msg111420.html#msg111420

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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #29 on: June 08, 2022, 10:43:08 PM »
My Hickey thread deals with the issue of the Z313 shot clearing the windshield of the Queen Mary.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2833.30.html

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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #30 on: January 01, 2023, 04:03:24 AM »
Here are my timings for the footfalls of the lady wearing white shoes in the Zapruder footage & the Bronson footage.
Footfall was in …...…Footfall was in
Zapruder Frame... Bronson Frame…
R @ Z295………………
L @ Z305……………….. L @ UYB05.5….
R @ Z316………………. R @ UYB10.5
L @ Z325………………. L @ UYB 15.0


Zapruder Frame... Bronson Frame…
R @ Z295………………
L @ Z305……………….. L @ UYB05.5….
R @ Z316………………. R @ UYB10.5…. this becomes UYB12.5 after inserting 6a & 8a from chart below.
L @ Z325………………. L @ UYB15.0

The headshot seen in Z313 was fired at say Z312, which is 7 frames after Z305 & 4 frames before Z316, ie somewhere in the 11 frames.
The headshot in the Bronson footage was fired between UYB05.5 & UYB12.5, ie somewhere in the 7 frames.
Hence Z312 corresponds to UYB07.
The arithmetic is as follows.  7/11 times 7 is 4.46 Bronson frames –- hence we add 4.46 to B05.5 & we get UYB09.96 --- ie Z312 corresponds to UYB09.
But UYB09 is a pseudo frame count resulting from us inserting the missing frames 6a & 8a (ie frames skipped by Unger) --- hence pseudo UYB09 is actually UYB07 --- hence Z312 corresponds to UYB07 (as mentioned above).

Hickey deniers have always insisted that Z313 corresponded to UYB09 --- & they have insisted that UYB09 shows Hickey sitting down --- hence they have insisted that Hickey could not have fired the Z313 headshot.
Their first mistake is that the headshot was not at Z313 --- it was at Z312 (& then hit at Z313)(the AR15 was say 21ft away from JFK).
Their second mistake was praps their timings of the footfalls of the lady wearing white shoes --- my own timings today might be exactly the same as theirs, or mine might be slightly different (& possibly more accurate than theirs)(i haven’t had a close look at their timings).

In my Reply#27 i said that………….
Notice Hickey standing upish at UYB07 (top of head is a half head lower than standing Agents).
Actually he is falling backwards in UYB07.

https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.24.html

So, (the inferior 2017 copy of) the Bronson footage supports my theory that Hickey shot JFK. 
And the museum wont let the general public have a copy of the superior 2019 copy of Bronson's footage.

Here below is a copy of what i said in my Reply#3.
https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.0.html
Bronson frame 20-50 is too blurry to be of any use.  When measuring the good 19 frames i noticed that up to 6 frames were missing.  The skipped or missing frames were found by measuring the horizontal distances moved by the lamp-pole & sign post relative to Queen Mary.  I found  5 frames where the distance moved from the previous frame (ie the gap) was double or triple the usual.  My measurements were in mm, measured on the glass face of my computer monitor,  each mm vertically is about 0.91" on the car,  & the horizontal scale might be similar (too lazy to check today).

…... dist mm …. gap.
01 …… 000 ……. 000.
2a …… 012 ……. 012.
02 …… 025 ……. 013.
03 …… 038 ……. 013.
04 …… 049 ….… 010.
05 …… 061 ……. 012.
6a ..… (072) …. (011).
06 …… 083 ……. 011.
07 ….. 094.5 …. 011.5.
8a ….. (105) …. (010.5).
08 …… 115.5 … 010.
09 …… 123.5 … 008.
10 …... 135 …… 011.5.
11 …… 145 ……. 010.
12a … (153) … (008).
12 ..… 162 …... 009.
13 …… 170 ……. 008.
14 …… 176.5 … 006.5.
15a …. (184) … (007.5).
15b … (192) …. (008).
15 …… 201 ……. 009.
16 …… 210 ……. 009.
17 …… 221 ……. 011.
18 …… 229 ……. 008.
19 …… 235 ……. 006.
20 is too blurry to be of any use.

I inserted the dummy frames for the missing frames because that info might affect some future calculations.  I can't remember the frame rate per second, it might be 12 fps.
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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #31 on: January 09, 2023, 07:57:08 AM »
Here are 2 gifs of the Bell footage that i made this week. If u download the 2 gifs u can watch them in full screen.
If u have a close look u can see that Hickey has the AR15 in both hands for most of the gif.


(See below) The guy far left is running koz a few seconds ago some of Hickey's auto burst whizzed just west of the lamp-pole very near to where the guy had been standing (one of the ricochets bloodied Tague's left cheek).
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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #32 on: January 09, 2023, 08:01:12 AM »
If u have a close look at my gif u can see that Hickey has the AR15 in both hands for most of the gif.
The photo below is from the gif, & shows Hickey holding the AR15 in both hands.
It also shows Roberts (in the front passenger seat) sticking his head up & telling Hickey to be careful with the AR15.

FROM: ATSAIC Emory P. Roberts, The White House Detail --- US Secret Service --- November 29, 1963
SUBJECT: Schedule of events prior to and after the assassination of President John F. Kennedy in Dallas, Texas on Friday November 22, 1963.
……………I turned around a couple times, just after the shooting and saw that some of the Special Agents had their guns drawn, I know I drew mine, and saw SA Hickey in rear seat with the AR-15, and asked him to be careful with it……………

Bell filmed the JFK limo & Queen Mary going throo the triple underpass.
This sequence had about 68 Bell frames & started (i reckon) at Z422 which is 109 Z frames (6.0 seconds) after the headshot at Z313.
But the gifs start at Z459 which is 8.0 seconds after Z313.
The 68 Bell frames took  (i reckon) 6.9 seconds. I calculated that Bell's camera ran at 10.1 fps (compared to Zapruder's 18.3 fps).
My gif has 40 frames, starting at frame 19 & ending at frame 58.


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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #33 on: January 09, 2023, 10:06:55 PM »
The Hickey shot is a myth. All Secret Service ammo was accounted for after the assassination. Nobody in Hickey's car heard him fire a shot. Two of the people in the car with Hickey were close Kennedy aides and friends Powers and O'Donnell. We now know that Powers and O'Donnell told federal agents that shots came from the grassy knoll but that the agents pressured them into changing their stories. Yes, a number of people in Dealey Plaza smelled the scent of gun powder, but that smell was from the grassy knoll shots. One shot from an AR-15 rifle would not have produced a strong, lingering smell of gun powder that could be smelled from several spots near Elm Street--that just would not happen from a single shot from an AR-15. The cowlick entry site has been debunked, and the trajectory from Hickey's rifle to the EOP entry site does not work.

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Re: Bronson saw Hickey shoot JFK.
« Reply #34 on: January 09, 2023, 10:41:40 PM »
The link below will take u to the Bell footage at the museum. 
And i show links to 2 youtubes which are of good quality, & are easier to watch than the museum footage.
Every other youtube of the Bell footage is of poor or very poor quality – don’t waste time looking.
https://emuseum.jfk.org/objects/65704/bell-8mm-color-film-with-original-box-and-reel?ctx=788556dfdaf975f0c5fdbd18f828aeca5a741558&idx=29