Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

We were taught in the Army to fire a burst of 3.

AR15s & M16s had BURST settings (3 shots or praps 4 shots) a few years later than 1963.
The AR15 601 in 1963 had i think 3 settings.... SAFETY.... SEMI (ie a single shot per sqeez).... AUTO (ie fires when trigger sqeezed & keeps firing untill trigger released)(probably at least 2 shots minimum)(say 4 or 5 shots if accidentally sqeezed).
Plus it had i think 3 slamfire pseudo settings.... SAFETY(SLAMFIRE)(mightbe)(ie empties the magazine i think).... SEMI(SLAMFIRE)(ie single shot i think).... AUTO(SLAMFIRE)(ie empties the magazine i think).
The AR15 602 had a less massive firing pin & hence didnt have the 3 slamfire pseudo settings.

[Walt Cakebread]

The facts and evidence that place Oswald on the 6th floor have been documented by the federal and state law enforcement authorities charged with the responsibility for investigating the case.  As opposed to Internet loons who suggest things like the red circles on the TSBD windows were a "signal" to LBJ.  The evidence of Oswald's guilt was compiled by the WC and has been widely available for almost six decades.  That is the evidence that convinces me and history of his guilt.  It is not necessary to convince every loon of this fact for it to be true.  That is perhaps where your confusion lies.

Name a single FACT that places Lee Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the coup d' etat.  Just one FACT please....

DPD police chief Jesse Curry could not cite a single fact that placed Lee Oswald on the sixth floor.....

[John Iacoletti]

Name a single FACT that places Lee Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the coup d' etat.  Just one FACT please....

“Richard” has had 6 months to try to come up with one. It’s never gonna happen.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

We don’t know exactly where Queen Mary was at the time of Hickey's headshot at Z312 (the hollowpoint slug hits JFK at Z313). Queen Mary might have been directly behind the JFK limo or a bit to one side -- & Queen Mary might have been on an angle.
We don’t know exactly where SSA Hickey was sitting/standing in Queen Mary at Z312 (he was or had been sitting hi up in the left rear seat sitting on 2 leather cases)(he was holding the AR15).

But we do know where the AR15 was at Z310, ie the time of the 2nd last shot of Hickey's auto burst of at least 4 shots…..
…… The slug had to get over the windshield of Queen Mary...
…… & the slug had to get under the divider/rollbar of the JFK limo…
…… & the slug had to go clear through between the upturned vizors on Queen Mary.

The drawing below shows the available window for the pozzy of the AR15 at Z310 – relative to Queen Mary.
Where exactly Hickey had to be in Queen Mary depends on exactly where Queen Mary was at Z310 – as i sayd, Queen Mary might have been left or right of the JFK limo, & it might have been on an angle relative to the JFK limo -- & we don’t know whether Queen Mary was 5' or 6' or 7' from the JFK limo.

I reckon that Hickey had moved over to his right & that the AR15 was near the centerline of Queen Mary for the whole of the auto burst.
I reckon that Hickey had the AR15 in both hands for the whole of the auto burst.
And i reckon that Hickey was holding the AR15 up high, & out in front of him (he had to lift & swing the AR15 over O'Donnell's head)(sitting in the jumpseat).

We don’t know whether Hickey was intending to shimmy over to the centerline of Queen Mary so that Hickey could stand & turn around to target the TSBD – or, he might have been planning on kneeling on the rear seat with his right knee – or standing on the rear seat with his right foot.

Anyhow, the problem with Hickey killing JFK was never how he managed to have the AR15 hi enuff to clear the Queen Mary windshield – it turns out that the problem was how he managed to have the AR15 in that there small window to make the dent.

While i am hot – there are at least 2 problems with the pix.
Firstly SSA Hill was not in front of Queen Mary at Z313 – he was back a ways, not yet level with the front wheel.
Secondly SSA McIntyre on the left running board was not looking at Hill – the Bronson footage shows us that McIntyre was looking at Hickey (koz he had seen Hickey pick up the AR15).
McIntyre snaps his head forward & looks at JFK after Z313 (seen in Bronson footage), ie after Hickey's auto burst (to see whether any damage has been dunn).

Another problem. The red lines pass over Jackie  -- they should pass directly over JFK or nearly. I think that JFK might have been a little closer to the centerline of the JFK limo. And i think that Queen Mary might have been over to our left a bit. Anyhow, the red lines should be over the top of JFK's head, or nearly.   One solution to this problem is that during the auto burst the AR15 might have been swinging left to right (from Hickey's point of view), while swinging downwards – if so then the red lines (for the shot at Z310) can indeed be somewhere between JFK & Jackie.

[Chris Davidson]

When did Hickey ever rise higher than the agent on the running board?
Because, according to the frame you grabbed from "The Smoking Gun" recreation, this is what's being portrayed in order for a successful armpit assassination.
Gif provided looping back and forth, in case you needed a larger version of Bronson to see Hickey never comes close to that height. Huge gif, give it time to load.

[Richard Smith]

Name a single FACT that places Lee Oswald on the sixth floor at the time of the coup d' etat.  Just one FACT please....

DPD police chief Jesse Curry could not cite a single fact that placed Lee Oswald on the sixth floor.....

Even you know the evidence against Oswald.  And that is saying a lot given your profound ignorance of so many facts.  Again, the WC outlined the evidence against Oswald that was compiled by the state and federal law enforcement agents charged with investigating the case.  As opposed to Internet kooks and contrarians.  Of that mountain of evidence, the most important item is Oswald's rifle.  I know contrarians and CTers want to go down all the same rabbit holes to suggest there is somehow doubt of Oswald's ownership of this rifle, but the actual evidence is rock solid.  There is no doubt.  He is even pictured holding the rifle.  His prints are on it.  The serial number matches the rifle sent to his PO Box.  Absent a time machine, it is impossible there could even be any more evidence of this fact.  It's Oswald's rifle that is found on the 6th floor.

Oswald's rifle is left at the scene of the crime on the 6th floor from which several witnesses confirm the shots were fired.  There are fired bullet casings from Oswald's rifle found by the same window from which the shots were fired.  Those shots were fired at 12:30 which places the shooter on that floor at that time.  It doesn't take Sherlock Holmes to connect these dots.  If Oswald is not the shooter, then he has a chance to explain how his rifle came to be there.  Does he tell the police that he sold his rifle to someone else?  No.  Does he tell the police it was stolen?  No.  Does he provide any explanation for it to be on found on the 6th floor if he didn't put it there?  No.  What does he do?  He lies to them and denies that he owned any rifle.  His own wife has already told the authorities otherwise when they first arrive at the Paine home EVEN before she knows Oswald is a suspect.  Oswald also lies to them about carrying a long package to work that morning.  He tells Frazier he did not bring his lunch that morning (obvious because he is carrying a long package and not his lunch).  He tells the police the exact opposite.  Another lie.  But there is still hope for Old Ozzie.  Maybe he was out on the street to see the president like most others?  No.  Maybe he was in the presence of a coworker or anyone who could give him an alibi?  No.   So Oswald's rifle is found at the scene of a shooting.  He has no explanation for its presence but instead lies about his ownership of the rifle.   He also has no credible alibi for the moment of the shooting but instead flees the scene to get another gun which he uses to shoot a police officer less than an hour later.   Guilty.

[Marjan Rynkiewicz]

When did Hickey ever rise higher than the agent on the running board?
Because, according to the frame you grabbed from "The Smoking Gun" recreation, this is what's being portrayed in order for a successful armpit assassination.
Gif provided looping back and forth, in case you needed a larger version of Bronson to see Hickey never comes close to that height. Huge gif, give it time to load.

The Hickey rise stuff & the head height stuff is dealt with in my Bronson thread. https://www.jfkassassinationforum.com/index.php/topic,2836.40.html
Here is some of my #46 wordage & a pix from that thread… (see also my #26 & #39 from that Bronson thread).
………….Here is a side view of Queen Mary showing heights of Hickey's head & possible pozzy of AR15. Head is say 10" high. The AR15 was 39" long -- thats huge. Kinney the driver & Roberts in passenger seat would have got a fright. Powers & O'Donnell in jump seats not so much -- even if the muzzle was much further back than my estimate of 28"……


Hickey did not have to rise any higher at all, ie from his normal half sitting half standing perch hi up on 2 leather cases on the back seat – but in that case he would have had to lift the AR15 up to his chin (for the AR15 to fire over the windshield of Queen Mary). Why are u fixated with the AR15 having to be in Hickey's armpit? If it was in Hickey's armpit then he would have to be fully erect (84") for the AR15 to see JFK.
But Bronson frame B07 (see #26 of the Bronson thread) shows Hickey a half head (5") higher than when in his sitting pozzy (sitting ht is 71" above the road)(a half head higher is 76" above the road)(top of McIntyre's head is 81" above the road)(Hickey if fully erect would be 84" above road)(windshield is 60" above road)(JFK inshoot is say 7.5" below the 60" windshield)(muzzle of AR15 needs to be say 1" above windshield)(but if Queen Mary brakes with the wt of 9 guys & the front dips then that there 1" might come down to 0").