Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #21 on: March 19, 2021, 03:24:54 AM »
Greer didnt notice any impact&cracks on the windshield or indent on the chrome strip until shown the next day.  Hence Greer cant help us re when they happened, ie which shot.
https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/greer.htm

Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe any bullets or fragments of bullets at rest in the car after the shooting terminated?
Mr. GREER. No, sir; I didn't, I left the car at the hospital and I didn't see it any more until the next day.
Mr. SPECTER. I hand you Commission Exhibit No. 349, Mr. Greer, and ask if you are able to identify what that picture represents?
Mr. GREER. That represents the windshield of the car.
Mr. SPECTER. Of the President's car?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; it looks like the windshield of the President's car.
Mr. SPECTER. Now calling your attention to a small arrow--
Mr. GREER. Arrow.
Mr. SPECTER. Which points up on what appears to be an indentation, I ask you if you--when was the first time, if at all, that you observed that indentation?
Mr. GREER. I didn't observe that--
Mr. SPECTER. On the car?
Mr. GREER. Until after I got back to Washington, until the car came back to Washington, I saw it at the White House garage. It was the first time I had ever noticed that.
Mr. SPECTER. On what date did you observe that indentation on the car?
Mr. GREER. That was the day after, the 23, would be it. It would be the day after the shooting. We got back from Dallas.
Mr. SPECTER. And what time of the day did you observe the car at the White House garage on that date?
Mr. GREER. It was in the afternoon, I believe. I believe it was in the afternoon, I believe.
Mr. SPECTER. Did anyone call that indentation to your attention at that time?
Mr. GREER. Yes; I was asked if I knew about it.
Mr. SPECTER. Who was it who asked you?
Mr. GREER. I can't remember now who did say that, but I was shown that indentation at the same time I was the break in the glass. I was shown both and asked if I had known but I can't remember who might have asked me.
Mr. SPECTER. Had you ever observed that indentation before the assassination occurred?
Mr. GREER. No, sir. I had never noticed it before at any time. I had never seen it before.
Mr. SPECTER. Had you ever had any occasion to examine closely that metallic area to ascertain whether or not there was such an indentation prior to the assassination?
Mr. GREER. Well, it seems to me I would have prior to that had it been there because I do take care of the car sometimes, and it had never been--I had never noticed it at any previous time.
Mr. SPECTER. I hand you Commission Exhibit 350 and ask you if you are able to state what that depicts?
Mr. GREER. That depicts a break or a shatter in the windshield of it.
Mr. SPECTER. Does that picture accurately represent the status of the windshield on the President's car at sometime?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; that windshield looks real familiar to me on the way it--
Mr. SPECTER. At what time, based on your observation, did the windshield of the President's car look like that picture?
Mr. GREER. I had never seen that until the following day after it came back from Dallas.
Mr. SPECTER. But on November 23, did the President's car windshield look like that?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; it looked like there was a break that had a diamond, in the windshield whenever I was shown that at the garage, the White House garage.
Mr. SPECTER. Was the size and scope of the crack the same as that which is shown on that exhibit?
Mr. GREER. That I wouldn't remember whether it was quite that large or not. I don't believe it was that big. It might not have been but I wouldn't say for sure.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you observe any crack on the windshield after the time of the shooting on November 22?
Mr. GREER. No, sir; I didn't see it at all. I didn't know anything about it until I came back, until the car came back and I was shown that.
Mr. SPECTER. Did you have any occasion on November 22, after the shooting, to observe closely the windshield?
Mr. GREER. No, sir. The only time I was in the car was going to the hospital and I never--I didn't see the car any more. It was just from the shooting until we got to Parkland that I was with the car. I left the car there and never did see it until it was back at the White House garage.
Mr. SPECTER. Are you able to state with certainty there was no crack in that windshield prior to the shooting on November 22?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; I am sure there was nothing wrong with that windshield prior to that because I would have it was almost in front of me and I examined the car, I looked it all over when I got there, I saw it was clean and everything, the windshield. I didn't see this ever at any time previous.
Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Greer, I now call your attention to a windshield which has been marked as Commission Exhibit No. 351, and I will ask you to take a look at it and identify it for us, if you can, calling your attention first of all to the windshield itself. Are you able to state--
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir; this is the windshield that came out of the Lincoln.
Mr. SPECTER. That you were operating on the day of the assassination?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Can you describe what cracks, if any, which you see now on that windshield were present?
Mr. GREER. When I looked--
Mr. SPECTER. When you observed the automobile windshield on November 23, the next day?
Mr. GREER. This little star, the star in here with the little star. These cracks were not there.
Mr. SPECTER. Now by these cracks you are indicating--
Mr. GREER. These.
Mr. SPECTER. The long cracks which radiate off from the center?
Mr. GREER. That is right. This was the only cracks that I could see was this star-type fragment.
Mr. SPECTER. There you are indicating what would be described as the principal point of contact which was present when you observed it on November 23?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir.
Mr. SPECTER. Give me your best estimate on the diameter of the cracking of the windshield as it existed on November 23?
Mr. GREER. To the best of my estimate it would be these little stars that are here, the little shatters that are here.
Mr. SPECTER. Would it be fair to say that you are indicating a circle with a circumference or diameter of approximately an inch to an inch and a half?
Mr. GREER. I don't think--it probably would be an inch. The whole diameter.
Mr. SPECTER. Approximately 1 inch as you estimate it?
Mr. GREER. Yes, sir.
Representative BOGGS. Excuse me, did you say you did not notice this crack from the time that you drove the car after the shooting to the hospital?
Mr. GREER. No, sir; I had flags on the car and you know they were waving at a high rate of speed and you have the Presidential flag and the American flag in front of you there; you know when you are going at a fast speed you get a lot of, well, I don't know how you would say it, it attracts you so much that I didn't have any recollection of what happened on the windshield.
Representative BOGGS. There was no glass or anything that spattered on you in any way?
Mr. GREER. No, sir; I didn't feel anything at all. I didn't feel a thing hit me.
I was kind of shocked at the time, I guess anything could have and I wouldn't have known what hit me. You are tense, I was pretty tense, and naturally my thoughts were the hospital, and how fast I could get there, and probably I could have been injured and not even known I was injured. I was in that position.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #22 on: March 20, 2021, 06:15:40 AM »
Here are a printscreen from the youtube of a Hickey cartoon showing the likely happenings at Z313.
14 mistakes.
Not only did Hill jump off the running board but Ready & Landis also jumped down briefly (Nix footage).
Hickey was earlier drawn sitting low down in the seat, in fact we know he was half-sitting half-standing on 2 cases placed on the rear seat for that purpose.
Hickey is shown flicking the AR15 from SAFE to SEMI, no, he flicked all the way to AUTO.
Hickey should be shown stumbling forward onto Donnelly, due to Queen Mary braking, at which time Hickey accidentally fires.
And instead of one shot there were a number of auto shots.
And Agent McIntyre on the left running board watched Hickey picking up the AR15 & shooting (Bronson footage).
And then after the shots McIntyre quickly looks towards JFK (Bronson footage).
And after the shots the Queen Mary driver Kinney looks around to his right & back towards Bennett on the back seat (Muchmore footage).
During the shots driver Greer has turned around & is looking at JFK, & he then turns to look forward & he lowers his head & keeps it low for a while (Zapruder footage).
After the shots Kellerman in the front passenger seat in the JFK limo ducks down & puts his head against the dash & stays down for a while (Zapruder footage).
And Agent Youngblood should be shown covering LBJ (statements).
JFK The Smoking Gun – 5:11 long -- 75,916 views -- •Dec 5, 2013 -- Szymon Wojteczek

https://sites.google.com/view/jfkhickeycartoons/home
https://www.flickr.com/photos/192566201@N05/51064827901/in/album-72157718751599323/
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #23 on: March 22, 2021, 04:41:09 AM »
I have drawn 3 puffs of smoke in the pix showing the view from the witnesses on the underpass.
One puff is from Oswald's 2 shots, one is from Hickey's 3 or 4 or 5  shots, one is near the picket fence.
The 3 puffs are fairly close together anglewise for the witnesses on the underpass, especially any witnesses standing at the northern end of that group.
Perhaps Oswald's or Hickey's smoke was confused as being from the picket fence.
More likely it was Hickey's smoke.
This pix was i think in 2019, the trees would have been smaller & thinner in winter 1963.
The pix shows the view from i reckon over the line tween the center lane & the southern lane.
The 3 puffs would look closer together from over the northern lane.

https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipOAdMzVh_2GEe6Fpmxa9tAEz6h6GvopIlsjYO0ncYdGBdptUE57ABIKozR5StzDSg?key=QTUxMnVnVW54a19acUFkcHRDNTNHcjZudXFIcndB

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #25 on: March 23, 2021, 12:39:13 AM »
Here is a drawing of the 2 shots fired by Oswald at Z123 (ricochet off the signal arm)[edit: it was actually say Z113, the location in the drawing is correct, ie just past the signals, but the time is not correct, ie the drawing says time is Z123 but should say time is Z113] & at Z218 (the magic bullet) & at least 4 accidentally by Hickey at Z313 Z314 Z315 Z316 (AR15 in auto mode)(not in burst mode)(the AR15 (601) didnt have a burst mode setting).
https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipPOCRa2S8-HTPFFK1MLw-01bANIH9nUaktARBptcD_jXFGAPsGkcMhWsvfYFZc98w?key=bmczYTJrcVNzZ1YwU2VBMXlwb2RDOVVsSUgwV0lB
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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #26 on: March 23, 2021, 11:30:11 PM »
Here in Z313 we see the driver Greer turned around to his right as far as possible looking at JFK's head exploding.
In his testimony he said he was looking at Connally & didn’t see JFK get hit. A lie.  In his testimony Greer thought that Connally was in his usual position in his jump seat behind Kellerman, but in Zapruder we can see that Connally has slumped over to the left so far that it is actually easier for Greer to see JFK than it is to see Connally.  I tried turning my head that far just now & i hurt my neck, i couldnt do it.

However the other pix at Z326 is what i really want to talk about, 13 frames after Z313, ie 13/18th of a second after.
As can be seen Greer & Kellerman have both ducked down as a natural reaction to Hickey's accidental 4 or 5 shot auto burst.
Greer couldnt get any lower & still see to drive.
Kellerman's head is against the dashboard, he cant duck lower.
 
Hickey's shot-1 was at  Z313 (JFK's head explodes)(remnant slug cracks windshield near Greer). 
Shot-2 was at say Z314 (dents chrome trim above mirror). 
Shot-3 was at say Z315 (hits tarmac & kerb Elm St). 
Shot-4 was at say Z316 (hits tarmac & kerb Main St)(Tague stung).

Greer said he felt the concussion of the shots, & there were at least 2, & the shots were almost simultaneous.
Kellerman said that it was a flurry of at least 2 shots.
The AR15(601) was pointed tween Greer's right earhole & Kellerman's left earhole, & the muzzle was only 28 ft away.
If it were me i would have soiled my undies & then ducked.

Did they duck down like that after they heard Oswald's shot-1 at say Z123?
No.
We don’t see them ducking down at Z133 the first Zapruder frame in that sequence (about 10 frames later)(praps 20).

Did they duck down after they heard Oswald's shot-2 at say Z218?
No.
We don’t see them ducking down in frames following soon after Z218.

Yes, Hickey killed JFK.   It was rotten luck, he was just doing his job.

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Re: Was Hickey's AR15 in burst mode?
« Reply #27 on: March 24, 2021, 02:41:29 AM »
As can be seen Hickey's 601 model AR15 didnt have a burst-mode (ie auto 3 shot burst), hence Hickey must have set it in auto mode (& accidentally fired 4 or 5 or 6 shots) when he took it off SAFE.
It had three settings SAFE --- SEMI --- AUTO.  The Semi-mode auto loads one cartridge per squeeze & fires one shot per squeeze.

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