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Offline Bill Chapman

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« Reply #70 on: February 06, 2021, 08:07:21 PM »
The little prick killed Tippit, so deconstructing from that point suggests that Oswald remained downstairs as long as possible and made sure someone saw him, in an attempt to cast at least some doubt re making it back upstairs in time to create the ensuing commotion.

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #71 on: February 06, 2021, 09:11:10 PM »
Why not just get Mr Oswald himself to go up to the sixth floor and pretend to shoot at JFK?

Why not just get Mr Oswald himself to go up to the sixth floor and pretend to shoot at JFK?

That would be very dangerous,  Lee knew that the Secret service would probably kill him ( Actually the conspirators would have loved for Lee to have agreed to be at the window.) After the Walker incident Marina had told him that some other party could have shot Walker and it would appear that Lee had been the shooter, so Lee wouldn't have been there on the sixth floor.  However, I believe there is a very strong possibility that Lee could have been the person who planted the evidence ( Shells, and rifle) BEFORE the event.. 

If Lee had been behind the window and had escaped from that site, he would never have left the building , because there were plenty of law officers in the area to have sealed the building immediately.
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Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #72 on: February 06, 2021, 11:00:50 PM »
Why not just get Mr Oswald himself to go up to the sixth floor and pretend to shoot at JFK?

That would be very dangerous,  Lee knew that the Secret service would probably kill him ( Actually the conspirators would have loved for Lee to have agreed to be at the window.) After the Walker incident Marina had told him that some other party could have shot Walker and it would appear that Lee had been the shooter, so Lee wouldn't have been there on the sixth floor.  However, I believe there is a very strong possibility that Lee could have been the person who planted the evidence ( Shells, and rifle) BEFORE the event..

---OK Lee, so we're gonna to do a fake assassination attempt to get you into Castro's good graces.
---Sounds good.
---Fake shots.
---Sounds good.
---You up at the sixth-floor window.
---Sounds good.
---Your Carcano.
---Sounds good.
---Shells left by the window.
---Sounds good.
---Lots of folks down below in the crowd to see you up there.
---Sounds good.
---Might even be some photographs taken.
---Sounds good.
---So it's real important there's no doubt in anyone's mind that it was you done it, otherwise Castro will have you killed.
---Sounds good.
---We gotta get this right.
---Sounds good.
---So we're gonna get someone else to be up at that window pretending to be you.
---Huh?

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If Lee had been behind the window and had escaped from that site, he would never have left the building , because there were plenty of law officers in the area to have sealed the building immediately.

---Also, seeing as we need to get you out of the building alive and all, we're gonna make sure the guy impersonating you up there doesn't look a whole lot like you.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 12:10:05 AM by Alan Ford »

Offline Walt Cakebread

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« Reply #73 on: February 07, 2021, 12:13:36 AM »
---OK Lee, so we're gonna to do a fake assassination attempt to get you into Castro's good graces.
---Sounds good.
---Fake shots.
---Sounds good.
---You up at the sixth-floor window.
---Sounds good.
---Your Carcano.
---Sounds good.
---Shells left by the window.
---Sounds good.
---Lots of folks down below in the crowd to see you up there.
---Sounds good.
---Might even be some photographs taken.
---Sounds good.
---So it's real important there's no doubt in anyone's mind that it was you done it, otherwise Castro will have you killed.
---Sounds good.
---We gotta get this right.
---Sounds good.
---So we're gonna get someone else to be up at that window pretending to be you.
---Huh?

---Seeing as we need to get you out of the building alive and all, we're gonna make sure the guy impersonating you up there doesn't look a whole lot like you.

Pssst Mr F.   ....There was nobody behind that SE window at the time of the shooting....OPEN YOUR EYES and LOOK at the so called "Sniper's Nest'.....and ask yourself WHERE would a sniper be?  Notice the boxes stacked behind the open window...Would they have prevented a sniper from getting up to the open window?   How about to the right (west) of stacked boxes?  were there boxes stacked there that would have prevented a right handed sniper from firing out of the open window?

PS...I find your itemized list utterly stupid...  and overly simplistic.    I would have thought that you were above such cheap crap..    Have you been taking lessons from Chappie ?

Offline Alan Ford

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« Reply #74 on: February 07, 2021, 12:20:45 AM »
Pssst Mr F.   ....There was nobody behind that SE window at the time of the shooting....

---One more thing, Lee: in order to make Castro really believe it was you at the window, we're not going to have anybody at the window. But we're gonna pay a bunch of guys down in the street to say they saw someone at the window but they can't at all be sure it's you.

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« Reply #75 on: February 07, 2021, 12:54:00 AM »
---One more thing, Lee: in order to make Castro really believe it was you at the window, we're not going to have anybody at the window. But we're gonna pay a bunch of guys down in the street to say they saw someone at the window but they can't at all be sure it's you.

Nobody saw anybody behind the SE 6th floor window at the time of the shooting....About six spectators saw a man behind a window on the sixth floor .....Howard Brennan is the ONLY witness who claimed that he saw a man STANDING UP RIGHT behind a sixth floor window. Brennan swore that the man he saw was AIMING a  HUNTING rifle out of a window, but he could NOT have been referring to the SE corner window because no man could have been STANDING up right behind that window and aim a rifle down onto Elm street ...and the reason is:..... The bottom horizontal sash of the half open window would have prevented a standing man from aiming a rifle out of that window.

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« Reply #76 on: February 07, 2021, 01:04:48 AM »
Nobody saw anybody behind the SE 6th floor window at the time of the shooting....About six spectators saw a man behind a window on the sixth floor .....Howard Brennan is the ONLY witness who claimed that he saw a man STANDING UP RIGHT behind a sixth floor window. Brennan swore that the man he saw was AIMING a  HUNTING rifle out of a window, but he could NOT have been referring to the SE corner window because no man could have been STANDING up right behind that window and aim a rifle down onto Elm street ...and the reason is:..... The bottom horizontal sash of the half open window would have prevented a standing man from aiming a rifle out of that window.

---And the best part, Lee, is that as well as an empty sixth-floor window we're gonna put a guy at a different window on a different floor to the one you're supposed to be on, and tell him not to worry about keeping his face hidden from folks down on the street. That little touch will help keep you extra-safe in Cuba.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2021, 01:05:54 AM by Alan Ford »