LHO's shirt

[Dan O'meara]

Pathetic , Mr Ford..... Utterly pathetic!  Lee's handler  would have allowed Lee to believe that it was Lee's scheme, and gently guided Lee along the path.   

Yeah Walt, you've mentioned something like this before.
Are you saying you believe that Oswald was duped into believing it was his idea to assassinate JFK?
Are you saying he actually took the shots because he believed it was all his idea?
Not really sure what you're saying.

[Zeon Mason]

Yes, Walt needs to explain his Oswald the misled CIA and or FBI informants patsy theory ONE MORE TIME

[Walt Cakebread]

Yeah Walt, you've mentioned something like this before.
Are you saying you believe that Oswald was duped into believing it was his idea to assassinate JFK?
Are you saying he actually took the shots because he believed it was all his idea?
Not really sure what you're saying.

Are you saying you believe that Oswald was duped into believing it was his idea to assassinate JFK?

Thanks for asking, Dan....

I'm saying that Lee thought he was playing the same game "HOAX"  that he played at Walker's in April....At Walker's there was a bang heard...There was a bullet hole through Walker's window and a bullet recovered....NOBODY was hurt but the evidence seemed to indicate that someone had tried to kill Walker.  Which was utter nonsense....Because it the shooter had tried to kill Walker he could easily have succeeded. Walker simply sat there ( if he actually was in the room) for a minute or so before he got up and STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.  The Walker incident was a HOAX calculated to get Lee Oswald welcomed into Cuba as an attempted assassin of Castro's enemy...General Walker.

Lee had heard that a militant group would attempt to shhot JFK in Dallas.....And he went to notify FBI agent James Hosty, and Hosty reassured him that the FBI was on top of it and he ( Lee ) could proceed with the HOAX attempt that would make it appear that he and an associate had tried to shoot JFK.    Mr Ford laid it all out in simplistic fashion a few days ago, but Alan thinks that a man could be ORDERED to comply with a hoax scheme.....Whereas If the scheme is to work, The PATSY must be allowed to believe that it's his idea....

[Walt Cakebread]

---OK Lee, so we're gonna to do a fake assassination attempt to get you into Castro's good graces.
---Sounds good.
---Fake shots.
---Sounds good.
---You up at the sixth-floor window.
---Sounds good.
---Your Carcano.
---Sounds good.
---Shells left by the window.
---Sounds good.
---Lots of folks down below in the crowd to see you up there.
---Sounds good.
---Might even be some photographs taken.
---Sounds good.
---So it's real important there's no doubt in anyone's mind that it was you done it, otherwise Castro will have you killed.
---Sounds good.
---We gotta get this right.
---Sounds good.
---So we're gonna get someone else to be up at that window pretending to be you.
---Huh?

---Also, seeing as we need to get you out of the building alive and all, we're gonna make sure the guy impersonating you up there doesn't look a whole lot like you.

---OK Lee, so you think that you could pull off a fake assassination attempt to get you into Castro's good graces.
---Sounds good.
---Fake shots.
---Sounds good.
---Set up a stage using spent shells at a sixth-floor window.
---Sounds good.
---Your Carcano.
---Sounds good.

---Lots of folks down below in the crowd to see you up there.
---NOT good, Lee.... Too risky, you could be shot by a Secret Service guard
---Might even be some photographs taken.
--- NOT GOOD , Lee If a photographer could take your photo, He's be taking the photo of a dead man because the Secret Service are trained to respond instantly...far faster than a photographer. 

it's real important there's no doubt in anyone's mind that it was you done it, otherwise Castro will have you killed.
---Sounds good.
---We gotta get this right.
---Sounds good.

[Walt Cakebread]

Are you saying you believe that Oswald was duped into believing it was his idea to assassinate JFK?

Thanks for asking, Dan....

I'm saying that Lee thought he was playing the same game "HOAX"  that he played at Walker's in April....At Walker's there was a bang heard...There was a bullet hole through Walker's window and a bullet recovered....NOBODY was hurt but the evidence seemed to indicate that someone had tried to kill Walker.  Which was utter nonsense....Because it the shooter had tried to kill Walker he could easily have succeeded. Walker simply sat there ( if he actually was in the room) for a minute or so before he got up and STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.  The Walker incident was a HOAX calculated to get Lee Oswald welcomed into Cuba as an attempted assassin of Castro's enemy...General Walker.

Lee had heard that a militant group would attempt to shhot JFK in Dallas.....And he went to notify FBI agent James Hosty, and Hosty reassured him that the FBI was on top of it and he ( Lee ) could proceed with the HOAX attempt that would make it appear that he and an associate had tried to shoot JFK.    Mr Ford laid it all out in simplistic fashion a few days ago, but Alan thinks that a man could be ORDERED to comply with a hoax scheme.....Whereas If the scheme is to work, The PATSY must be allowed to believe that it's his idea....

"he went to notify FBI agent James Hosty, and Hosty reassured him that the FBI was on top of it and he ( Lee ) could proceed with the HOAX attempt that would make it appear that he and an associate had tried to shoot JFK."

Lee was desperately trying to thwart the plot...He wrote a note to Mr. Hunt  ( HL Hunt ) on November 8th, and he wrote a Note to FBI agent James Hosty on November 12th...   The goofy Telex that was a warning to Warren De Brueys was sent to the FBI in NO ( intended for Lee's handler Warren De Brueys) on November 17th......

[William Pilgrim]

Are you saying you believe that Oswald was duped into believing it was his idea to assassinate JFK?

Thanks for asking, Dan....

I'm saying that Lee thought he was playing the same game "HOAX"  that he played at Walker's in April....At Walker's there was a bang heard...There was a bullet hole through Walker's window and a bullet recovered....NOBODY was hurt but the evidence seemed to indicate that someone had tried to kill Walker.  Which was utter nonsense....Because it the shooter had tried to kill Walker he could easily have succeeded. Walker simply sat there ( if he actually was in the room) for a minute or so before he got up and STOOD IN FRONT OF THE WINDOW.  The Walker incident was a HOAX calculated to get Lee Oswald welcomed into Cuba as an attempted assassin of Castro's enemy...General Walker.

Lee had heard that a militant group would attempt to shhot JFK in Dallas.....And he went to notify FBI agent James Hosty, and Hosty reassured him that the FBI was on top of it and he ( Lee ) could proceed with the HOAX attempt that would make it appear that he and an associate had tried to shoot JFK.    Mr Ford laid it all out in simplistic fashion a few days ago, but Alan thinks that a man could be ORDERED to comply with a hoax scheme.....Whereas If the scheme is to work, The PATSY must be allowed to believe that it's his idea....

So are you saying that LHO could not be the Prayer Man due to his handlers advising him to keep out of sight at the time of the assassination, so he would not have been standing in the TSBD doorway?

[Walt Cakebread]

So are you saying that LHO could not be the Prayer Man due to his handlers advising him to keep out of sight at the time of the assassination, so he would not have been standing in the TSBD doorway?

Yes, that would be correct.   AND since this is a thread about "LHO's SHIRT" ....  Lee was wearing a reddish brown NON PLAID shirt with a button down collar that morning and he man who many believe is Lee Oswald was wearing a PLAID shirt .....The man can't be Lee.