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[John Iacoletti]

Yes, you point out a major problem for these "non-Oswald involved" conspirators: in order to frame Oswald for the assassination he has to be "frameable." That is, he can't have an alibi. If he has an alibi, if others can vouch that he was with them, or he can show he was outside of the building at the time then he can't be framed.

As you also point out, the framers have to know that he has no alibi. That he was alone. They had to know where he was at the time of the shooting - in order to frame him for it - and they had to know where his co-workers were - so they couldn't say he didn't shoot JFK. If either of those happened then their entire plan collapses.

So how did they - indeed, how could they - know this? How did they know he was even in the building at the time of the shooting? And that he wasn't elsewhere? And how did they know his co-workers couldn't give him an alibi? They planted the rifle (allegedly) BEFORE his co-workers were interviewed. What happens to this act if they say to the media, to others, that he was with them and couldn't have shot JFK? They planted the rifle (and other evidence, e.g., the bag) and now it all falls apart.

These are matters they simply cannot control. And obstacles that I simply cannot see being overcome. There are limits to the ability of these conspirators - whoever you think they were; even powerful groups - to do these things.

The reason why this argument always fails is because it assumes that a plan to frame Oswald necessarily had to be in place prior to the assassination.

[John Iacoletti]

I get it. Someone must've slipped in the Hidell ID into his wallet when he wasn't looking.

What makes you think the Hidell ID was ever in his wallet?

[John Iacoletti]

The little prick killed Tippit, so deconstructing from that point suggests that Oswald remained downstairs as long as possible and made sure someone saw him, in an attempt to cast at least some doubt re making it back upstairs in time to create the ensuing commotion.

"your opinions ain't facts".

[John Iacoletti]

Sure would help if these brainiacs could name someone, other than [name your shooter here] who knew there was an attempt on Kennedy scheduled that day.

How exactly would that "help"?

[John Iacoletti]

NoName conspirator #1: Say, why not set up some mental case with a rifle poking out the window behind the limo, then attack from the front.
NoName conspirator #2: Ummmm... not quite sure where you're going with this...
NoName conspirator #1: Hmmmm...

This nonsensical crap must be another example of what Chapman likes to tell himself is "clever, cut-to-the-quick insights".

[Dan O'meara]

What makes you think the Hidell ID was ever in his wallet?

I forgot that whatever disorder you suffer from means you don't recognise sarcasm.

[John Iacoletti]

I forgot that whatever disorder you suffer from means you don't recognise sarcasm.

Oh, is that the excuse we're using today?  So you don't believe the Hidell ID was in Oswald's wallet then?  If this is sarcasm, then you don't understand how sarcasm works either.