Were the JFK Assassination Plotters Sincere Patriots?

[Michael T. Griffith]

The plotters killed RFK and MLK because they viewed them as serious threats to the war effort.

I disagree....Hoover had them snuffed because he hated them and their policies.   He tried to blackmail both of them and was unsuccessful ....  Hoover created fake photos that showed both RFK, and MLK in sexual activity, and he thought that he could intimidate them....

The evidence in the RFK shooting points pretty clearly to the CIA. Read Tate and Johnson's recent book on the case, The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, as well as Lisa Pease's book on the case, A Lie Too Big to Fail.

https://sites.google.com/view/the-rfk-assassination/home

[Walt Cakebread]

The evidence in the RFK shooting points pretty clearly to the CIA. Read Tate and Johnson's recent book on the case, The Assassination of Robert F. Kennedy, as well as Lisa Pease's book on the case, A Lie Too Big to Fail.

https://sites.google.com/view/the-rfk-assassination/home

When you say the CIA did it....You might as well say the Brotherhood of Sicilian Associates ....Because it means nothing.  If you're saying that Dulles and Bissell were ring leaders, then I would agree.... But neither of them were officially employed by the CIA at the time of the Coup.     

[Joe Elliott]

Its also doubtful JFK could have got his own civil rights agenda passed in his second term.

The assassination helped LBJ get them through.

Yes, this is true. It certainly would have been a tougher road to get the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the Voters Rights Act of 1965 passed any time in the 1960’s if President Kennedy was not assassinated.

Just as the assassination of the Pro Civil Rights President Lincoln allowed the passage of the 14th and 15th amendments so the assassination of the Pro Civil Rights President Kennedy (he became so in his last few months) allowed the passage of the Civil Rights Act and the Voting Rights Act.

I remember, as a child, hearing that it was impossible for anything like the Civil Rights Act to ever pass. If one determined Southern Senator filibustered against it, there was nothing even a super majority of Senators could do. Well, it turned out, that was false. A super majority could overcome one or even several filibustering Senators, under the rules of the Senate, if they were determined enough. Up until 1964, the majority were only pretending to try but didn’t really want it to pass.

[Joe Elliott]

Were the JFK Assassination Plotters Sincere Patriots?

That’s kind of like asking: Were the Elders of Zion were Honest Men?

[Rick Plant]

The evidence clearly indicates that the men who were the main plotters behind the JFK assassination were rogue high-level elements in the CIA and the military. (The next level or two down from this top brass of plotters included elements of the Mafia, the anti-Castro Cubans, and the Dallas Police Department.)

I think one could make a good argument that the conspirators were sincere patriots who believed JFK was being reckless in his dealings with the Soviet Union, who believed he was going to abandon South Vietnam to the Communists, and who were alarmed by his abandonment of all efforts to overthrow Castro.

I think the plotters also believed that JFK was squandering the opportunity to destroy the Soviet Union once and for all with a nuclear first strike. It is beyond question that elements in the CIA and the military attempted to use the assassination as an excuse to provoke an all-out nuclear attack on Russia.

What about the rule of law and the immorality and illegality of assassinating a sitting president? The plotters believed that JFK's actions and avowed goals justified taking the extraordinary step of assassination. I think one of the main reasons they engaged in such a massive cover-up was to preserve America's image as the world's most stable and noble democratic republic.

I believe that the plotters were sincere patriots, and that in their minds they were acting in the best interests of the country and the world. This is not to exonerate them, but it is to say that they believed they were doing what had to be done to protect and advance America and the cause of freedom around the world.

Sounds like a bunch of QAnon crap. Plotters, murderers, insurrectionists are not "patriots". Only in their deranged diseased minds do they think they are.     

[Michael T. Griffith]

When you say the CIA did it....You might as well say the Brotherhood of Sicilian Associates ....Because it means nothing.  If you're saying that Dulles and Bissell were ring leaders, then I would agree.... But neither of them were officially employed by the CIA at the time of the Coup.

I don't think Dulles was involved. The evidence points to Helms, Angleton, Phillips, etc. etc.

I think many people in power believed JFK deserved to die because of his intent to withdraw from South Vietnam, his peace overtures to the Soviet Union, his intent to leave Castro in power, the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, and his sexual immorality.

JFK was listening to the wrong people when it came to the situation in Vietnam.

[Walt Cakebread]

I don't think Dulles was involved. The evidence points to Helms, Angleton, Phillips, etc. etc.

I think many people in power believed JFK deserved to die because of his intent to withdraw from South Vietnam, his peace overtures to the Soviet Union, his intent to leave Castro in power, the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, and his sexual immorality.

JFK was listening to the wrong people when it came to the situation in Vietnam.

The evidence points to Helms, Angleton, Phillips, etc. etc.

It's very difficult to "pin the tail on the donkey" in the correct place when you're blindfolded.  There's absolutely no doubt that the donkey needs the tail, but putting it in the right place is impossible when you're blindfolded.   We know that there was a conspiracy behind the murder of JFK.....But we don't know where to pin the responsibility....

It should be obvious that the reason that we are blind is because LBJ and J. Edgar Hoover had control of the investigation.