The Bus Stop Farce

[Bill Brown]

Actually, there is a 1:18 time stamp as well.

Not on channel 1, which is the channel dealing with the Tippit shooting.

[Charles Collins]

I’m not confused. And repeating your word salad about your building doesn’t change the fact that Bowles arbitrarily chose a zero-base time for his analysis and also said that the dispatcher time checks were not accurate.

Again, it makes absolutely no difference whether or not you believe that the choice of the beginning of the open-mike transmission was arbitrary. The accuracy of the time in Bowles' report are dependent upon the accuracy of his methods of deriving the rational assumption of 12:29:10 as the start of that transmission; and his use of the recordings and a stopwatch for deriving the times of the other events. This includes the time checks, which he indicates how far off his derived "real" time that he estimates them to be.

Bowles explained his methods and invited others to evaluate them and decide for themselves just how accurate they believe them to be.

[Martin Weidmann]

Not on channel 1, which is the channel dealing with the Tippit shooting.

According to the transcripts on McAdams' site there is. But on closer inspection that may refer to channel 2.

Having said that, the time stamps 1.18 and 1.19 seem to indicate that there was no traffic on channel 1 for a minute.

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

[Bill Brown]

According to the transcripts on McAdams' site there is. Nothing happens between 1.18 and 1.19 but the time stamp is there nevertheless

https://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/dpdtapes/tapes2.htm

Again, there is no 1:18 time stamp on channel 1, as I already told you.  A time stamp is given verbally by the dispatcher.

[Martin Weidmann]

Again, there is no 1:18 time stamp on channel 1, as I already told you.  A time stamp is given verbally by the dispatcher.

I reconsidered my reply while you wrote your reply and have edited my post accordingly.

I am aware the time stamps are given verbally by the dispatcher. I also know that, according to Bowles, those verbal time stamps could be a minute or so of from what the dispatcher's clock said, depending on how busy the dispatcher was.

And I still maintain that Bowley did not make his call at 1.17, nor did Callaway make his at 1.19.

Let me ask you this; if Tippit was killed at 1.14, as Dale Myers estimates, do you really believe Bowley made his radio call three minutes after that and Callaway did the same 5 minutes after the shots?

[Bill Brown]

I reconsidered my reply while you wrote your reply and have edited my post accordingly.

I am aware the time stamps are given verbally by the dispatcher. I also know that, according to Bowles, those verbal time stamps could be a minute or so of from what the dispatcher's clock said, depending on how busy the dispatcher was.

And I still maintain that Bowley did not make his call at 1.17, nor did Callaway make his at 1.19.

Let me ask you this; if Tippit was killed at 1.14, as Dale Myers estimates, do you really believe Bowley made his radio call three minutes after that and Callaway did the same 5 minutes after the shots?

Benavides watched the gunman disappear around the corner of the Davis house and then sat in his truck "for a second or two" before getting out and going over to Tippit.  After looking over Tippit, he leans in the open driver-side door and grabs the police radio mic.  If you listen to the actual police tapes (versus what you get on the McAdams site) you can hear Benavides attempt to key the mic several times without getting through (he didn't work it correctly).  These sounds can be heard for a complete minute at 1:15.

At some point during all of this, Bowley arrives, looks over Tippit's body and then eventually grabs the mic from Benavides.

Point being, Bowley didn't get on the mic right away because it was under the control of Benavides.

The shooting takes place at 1:14.  Benavides begins keying the mic around 1:15-1:16.  Bowley finally grabs the mic from Benavides at 1:17.

[Bill Brown]

If you begin with the 1:19 verbal timestamp and work backwards, Bowley's report on the police radio took place at 1:17:41.

Merry Christmas, Martin.