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Online Matt Brooks

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1988 on: September 16, 2026, 09:13:01 PM »
Okay, the splice i mean is really evident on the Zapruder film, it's i believe on Z154.

Online Andrew Mason

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1989 on: September 19, 2026, 04:39:26 AM »
Okay, the splice i mean is really evident on the Zapruder film, it's i believe on Z154.
I wasn’t sure if you were referring to z208-211.  Yes, Life Magazine damaged the emulsion on frames 154, 155, 156, and 157. 154 and 157 are still there showing some damage, but z155 and z156 were spliced out.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1990 on: September 19, 2026, 11:28:19 AM »
Yes, i meant that Z154-157 splice.

Online John Corbett

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1991 on: September 19, 2026, 02:46:56 PM »
I wasn’t sure if you were referring to z208-211.  Yes, Life Magazine damaged the emulsion on frames 154, 155, 156, and 157. 154 and 157 are still there showing some damage, but z155 and z156 were spliced out.

If that is true we have been misnumbering the subsequent Zapruder frames ever since. The head shot really occurred at Z315.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1992 on: September 19, 2026, 04:39:59 PM »
If that is true we have been misnumbering the subsequent Zapruder frames ever since. The head shot really occurred at Z315.
?? The numbering was done taking into account all original frames. Frames 155 and 156 exist (but without the sprocket area), as do frames 208-211, in the copies made when the film was developed at the Dallas Kodak lab.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1993 on: Yesterday at 08:57:10 PM »
The fact remains that eyewitnesses get things wrong and innocent people have gone to jail because juries accepted eyewitness accounts with no corroboration.
I challenge you to find a single case in which the witnesses all independently reported observing a simple fact and all were shown to have been wrong.

Note: Eyewitness identification is not an observation of fact but is really an opinion that the person at the scene, whom they did not know or recognize at the time, was the same person in a lineup or photo they were presented with later.