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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1820 on: Yesterday at 09:47:20 PM »
J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), and probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963.

Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1821 on: Yesterday at 09:52:32 PM »
Man, you love the ruskies.
You have such a hard on for all things soviet.
What happened to you bro?

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

I'm sorry for being so critical of your beloved world-class humanitarian organization known as the KGB (today's SVR and FSB).

-- Tom

PS I was expanding my post when you feverishly posted your little jewel, so here it is, again:

J. Edgar Hoover was duped by many Soviet intelligence agents over the years, including by GRU Lt. Col. Dmitry Polyakov for one year (1962), by KGB Major Aleksey Kulak for fifteen years (1962 - 1977), by Yuri Nosenko from February 1964, on, by CIA officers Bruce Leonard Solie (look him up) and Leonard V. McCoy (look him up) for who-knows-how-long, by, IMHO, "FBI agents" SOLO (Morris and Jack Childs), probably by that former Nazi, former POW, former Communist German National crop-duster from Snyder, Oklahoma, Guenter Heinz Schulz (TUMBLEWEED / AEBURBLE; look him up) who was instrumental in convincing the CIA and the FBI that Oswald had met with the KGB's alleged Western Hemisphere chief of assassinations and sabotage, Valery Kostikov, in Mexico City in September 1963, and . . . gasp . . . maybe even by James McCord of Watergate notoriety.
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1822 on: Yesterday at 09:56:23 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1823 on: Yesterday at 10:01:51 PM »
Just to steer away from lil' Tommy's penchant for Putin...when Hoover spoke that was the end of it. There was no greater authority. Hoover WAS the FBI. Don't let comrade Jerkov Graves tell you otherwise. When Hoover insisted that the investigation was going to show that Oswald was the lone assassin, that was the end of it.
Loser Nutters like Corbett, "Smith" and Payette would have you believe Hoover was ineffectual when in reality he was like a demi-god.
Hoover dictated the result of the investigation before it had really begun.
This is not a joke or an exaggeration.

Dear danny BOY o'meara,

To learn just how messed up the FBI was even way before Bugeyed Patel took over, read Mark Riebling's 1994 book, Wedge: The Secret War between the FBI and CIA.

You used to be able to read it for free by googling "wedge" "riebling" and "archive" simultaneously.

Maybe you still can.

-- Tom

PS Yep.

https://archive.org/stream/WedgeFromPearlHarborTo911HowTheSecretWarBetweenTheFBIAndCIAHasEndangeredNationalSecurity/Wedge+-+From+Pearl+Harbor+to+9:11+-+How+the+Secret+War+between+the+FBI+and+CIA+Has+Endangered+National+Security_djvu.txt
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Online John Corbett

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1824 on: Yesterday at 10:11:09 PM »
Remind us all again, what is the evidence CE399 was found at Parkland?
Remind us all again of the chain of custody for the bullet fragments found in the limo.

And, just to state the obvious, even to a cretin such as yourself, various bullet fragments DO NOT constitute a single bullet.

And your truly moronic understanding of Hoover's influence over the FBI is unbelievable.
Hoover WAS the FBI. End of story. What he said was gospel.
Your attempt to make him look like some kind of inept figurehead shows your utter ignorance regarding, not just this case, but American history in general.

I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1825 on: Yesterday at 10:29:12 PM »
I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.

danny BOY o'meara would rather believe and preach that oodles and gobs off evil, evil U.S. Government and Dallas Police types planned the assassination, "patsied" Oswald, planted evidence, killed JFK, planted more evidence, got away, altered the photos, films, and X-rays, shot a round backwards into a bale of cotton through Oswald's Carcano and planted it (or otherwise surreptitiously entered it into evidence), and are continuing until this very day the massive cover up of their and their fathers' and grandfathers' dastardly deeds!

danny BOY o'meara is on a mission!
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Online Dan O'meara

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1826 on: Yesterday at 10:46:19 PM »
I don't know if you are feigning ignorance or are really that clueless.

The official chain of custody described in the Warren Commission Exhibits and other records is as follows:

Discovery – The bullet was found by Parkland orderly Darrel Tomlinson on a stretcher (later identified as stretcher “B”) in the hospital corridor.

Handover to Security Chief – Tomlinson summoned Parkland security chief O.P. Wright, who took possession of the bullet.

Transfer to Secret Service – Wright delivered the bullet to Special Agent Richard Johnsen of the Secret Service.

Handover to Secret Service Chief – Johnsen gave the bullet to Chief James J. Rowley of the Secret Service.

Transfer to FBI – Rowley delivered it to FBI agent Elmer Todd, who passed it to FBI crime lab agent Robert Frazier.

Chain of Custody – Frazier and others who handled it initialed the bullet, creating a legal chain of custody.

The next time you need to learn basic facts of the JFKA explained to you, try using AI.

You are such a loser it defies belief.
I am going to try and very gently guide you through your own profound ignorance regarding the reality of this case.
You are going to struggle but hold on if you do really value the truth.

Tomlinson NEVER, EVER confirmed that CE399 was the bullet he found in Parkland, EVER.
Do you understand what this means?
The WC Sham deliberately avoided asking him to describe or confirm that CE399 was the bullet he found.
Do you know what this means?
O P Wright categorically denied that CE399 was the bullet Tomlinson handed to him.
Do you know what this means?
Every person who dealt with the bullet in Parkland refused to identify CE399 as the bullet they handled.
Do you know what this means?
The WC Sham entered CE399 into evidence without a single witness confirming it as such.
Do you know what this means?

Ask yourself this - if you are the one who is in the right, how come it's you who can't answer the most basic questions regarding the origins of CE399?
It's got nothing to do with what I believe.
Why are you the one who looks clueless?

PS: Rowley, the Chief of the Secret Service, handed a bullet to FBI agent Elmer Todd.
Agent Todd then showed CE399 to Rowley who refused to identify it as the bullet he had handed to Todd.
Anyone with half a brain can work out why.