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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1526 on: December 20, 2025, 03:00:02 PM »


That’s Howard Brennan of course. It is also before the first shot. We can see Rosemary running right by Brennan. The frame with Brennan crouching is significantly later. Plenty of time for Brennan to hop down.

   Thanks for posting that Dorman still frame. On the Zapruder Film, the Willis Girl is wearing the top of her hoody over her head. I do not see her wearing that hood over her head on this Dorman still frame. The hood is bright white like the entire jacket is. If she is wearing that White Hood over her head on this Dorman still frame, it's bright color should match the rest of the jacket that we see. I do not see any of the white hood over the top of her head on this Dorman still frame. I also believe I am seeing her hair instead of that white top. What do you see when comparing the Willis Girl on this still frame to the Willis Girl we see on the Zapruder Film? She could have put the hood on while running, but that would be very unusual all by itself. Not to mention that the weather was extremely good at that point in time.

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« Reply #1527 on: December 20, 2025, 06:38:36 PM »
   Thanks for posting that Dorman still frame. On the Zapruder Film, the Willis Girl is wearing the top of her hoody over her head. I do not see her wearing that hood over her head on this Dorman still frame. The hood is bright white like the entire jacket is. If she is wearing that White Hood over her head on this Dorman still frame, it's bright color should match the rest of the jacket that we see. I do not see any of the white hood over the top of her head on this Dorman still frame. I also believe I am seeing her hair instead of that white top. What do you see when comparing the Willis Girl on this still frame to the Willis Girl we see on the Zapruder Film? She could have put the hood on while running, but that would be very unusual all by itself. Not to mention that the weather was extremely good at that point in time.



It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1528 on: December 20, 2025, 06:58:32 PM »


It’s not a hoodie. It’s a scarf; a similar color to her jacket but not a part of the jacket like a hoodie. She is in Brennan’s shadow which makes a difference in the appearance due to reflected sunlight versus lack of reflected sunlight. I think that only the very top of the scarf is in direct sunlight in that Dorman frame. If you watch the Zapruder film, you might see a similar effect as she moves in and out of various shadows. It makes it quite difficult to say which way her head is facing at certain times.

   Thanks for the scarf info. I see on the Bronson footage that the scarf covering her head is a different color than the jacket.

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1529 on: Yesterday at 03:05:30 PM »
This is a signed photo by Ernest Brandt identifying himself. I assume, even for you, this is good enough.
(or have I faked it  8))



     PAYETTE - Put your wallet back in your pocket. Dan is Not selling this signed JFK Assassination Photo.

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« Reply #1530 on: Yesterday at 09:50:48 PM »
There is more signed Ernest Brandt crap on the internet than there is Haygood crap. It's pathetic. For far less than he's asking, folks can have a signed photo of me in the 43rd row of the 1983 MLB All-Star Game watching Rod Carew's historic pop-up to Ozzie Smith.


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« Reply #1531 on: Yesterday at 10:48:24 PM »
There is more signed Ernest Brandt crap on the internet than there is Haygood crap. It's pathetic. For far less than he's asking, folks can have a signed photo of me in the 43rd row of the 1983 MLB All-Star Game watching Rod Carew's historic pop-up to Ozzie Smith.



This is clearly a result of the Mandela effect due to your shape shifting extraterrestials having traveled thru a portal created in 2015 at the CERN particle accelerator. 😀
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« Reply #1532 on: Today at 07:25:16 PM »
     PAYETTE - Put your wallet back in your pocket. Dan is Not selling this signed JFK Assassination Photo.
Brandt did not come forward until the 1990s.  He gave an interview for the Sixth Floor Museum Oral History project, viewable here

His recollections are interesting. He said that JFK reacted to the first shot and the first shot occurred after the car had passed by where he was standing. He estimated it was 60-70 feet from where he was standing. He also commented on the reverberation being loud .

If he was standing where he said he was standing, as shown, then he is obviously wrong about the 60-70 feet.  We can see JFK reacting when he is no more than a 45 degree angle from the position where man with a hat would have been in looking at Altgens #6. If JFK was 15 feet from the curb then the car had only gone 15 feet past that point when he began reacting to his neck wound.

So it may be that his estimates of time are wrong.  Or it may be that his identification of himself is wrong.

Since he is identifying himself from the back, he must have identified himself by the hat. There is only one person seen in that part of the zfilm wearing a hat, so he may have concluded that must be him.  But there are at least two other people along Elm St. with similar hats.  Altgens #6 shows another man with a hat:



and the early Zfilm frames also show a man who appears to be wearing a similar hat standing just to the east of the lamp post:



It is interesting that he uses his right hand to show the direction he ran to the tree after the second shot.