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Online Tom Graves

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1400 on: November 29, 2025, 11:50:08 PM »
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20-plus witnesses said JFK reacted visibly to the first shot.

JFK started a quick look to his left in Z-144, one second after Oswald's first, missing-everything shot at "Z-124," by which time Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the passenger's side back seat of the follow-up car is already leaning over to his right to see if JFK is okay.

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Online Charles Collins

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1401 on: Yesterday at 01:23:01 AM »
JFK started a quick look to his left in Z-144, one second after Oswald's first, missing-everything shot at "Z-124," by which time Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the passenger's side back seat of the follow-up car is already leaning over to his right to see if JFK is okay.

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Both JFK and JBC glanced over to their left at nearly the same point in time. To me those glances were instinctual and automatic and both of them were checking on their wives.

Question: Is there any other time while they were on Elm Street that we can see JFK looking over to his left?

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1402 on: Yesterday at 01:49:09 AM »
Both JFK and JBC glanced over to their left at nearly the same point in time. To me those glances were instinctual and automatic and both of them were checking on their wives.

Good point.

If they were checking to see if their wives were okay it means their quick head turns were done consciously and therefore the shot they were reacting was about a second earlier.
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Online Royell Storing

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« Reply #1403 on: Yesterday at 02:53:41 PM »
Good point.

If they were checking to see if their wives were okay it means their quick head turns were done consciously and therefore the shot they were reacting was about a second earlier.

   The above is hilarious. How about contemplating that the wives actually comforted their dead/injured husbands? What JFK Assassination Images are you looking at? Oh that's right. Giving JFK Assassination Images due consideration would be actually examining the "Evidence". Can't do that. No way. 

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« Reply #1404 on: Yesterday at 09:36:31 PM »
The above is hilarious. How about contemplating that the wives actually comforted their dead/injured husbands?

Dear Comrade Storing,

What a stupid thing to say.

Jackie and Nellie attended to their husbands after they were wounded by CE-399 around Z-222.

BFD.

Pardon my German.

What Charles and I are talking about are JFK's head turn and quick glance in the direction of Jackie at Z-143, and John Connally's quick head turn and peripheral glance at Nellie at Z-150, the final stage of which was captured by Croft at Z-161.

D'oh!

I contend that they're consciously checking to see if their wives are okay after the loud "firecracker" or "backfire" at "Z-124."

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What JFK Assassination images are you looking at? Oh, that's right. Giving JFK Assassination Images due consideration would be actually examining the "Evidence". Can't do that. No way.

Yet another humdinger from you.

Question:

Have you never looked the Zapruder film frame-by-frame or watched the following clip?



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« Reply #1405 on: Yesterday at 09:53:53 PM »
  You have no idea what the wives or husbands were looking at. Jackie is staring Gov Connally smack in the face, and her husband is gagging right next to her. Stop with the mind reading. You're not good at it.
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« Reply #1406 on: Yesterday at 10:23:48 PM »
You have no idea what the wives or husbands were looking at. Jackie is staring Gov Connally smack in the face, and her husband is gagging right next to her.

Dear Comrade Storing,

You really sound like an idiot sometimes.

Read my lips:

JFK started turning his head quickly to his left at Z-143 to see if Jackie was okay after he heard what he hoped wasn't a shot at "Z-124."

Connally started turning his head quickly to his left at Z-150 to see if Nellie was okay after hearing what he knew was a rifle shot at "Z-124."

Your lame concentration on "Jackie's looking at Connally while JFK is gagging next to her" has to do with what she did post-Z222; Charles and I are talking about what JFK and Connally did about four seconds before Z-222.

D'oh!!!


-- Tom

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Re: The First Shot
« Reply #1407 on: Today at 01:01:02 AM »
JFK started a quick look to his left in Z-144, one second after Oswald's first, missing-everything shot at "Z-124," by which time Secret Service Agent Glen Bennett in the passenger's side back seat of the follow-up car is already leaning over to his right to see if JFK is okay.

Debunked nonsense.
This thread contains a staggering amount of evidence demonstrating, beyond any shadow of a doubt, that such an early shot is out of the question.
Who cares what you imagine people in the Z-film are looking at, or what they are thinking?
Do some research and provide some actual evidence to support your fantasies. It's the least a 'researcher' should do.
 

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