Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Paul May]

Storing’s demonstrated ignorance of polling one more time demonstrates how easy it is to pretend, online to be more than what he actually is. He called “likely voters” polling “pure BS” until I posted a link. It’s been around for decades. Of course he didn’t know this. So, he then attempts to impress us by claiming his clients require NDA’s. These must be the clients he counsels. Roflmao. When all else fails, he disappears.

[Rick Plant]

Storing’s demonstrated ignorance of polling one more time demonstrates how easy it is to pretend, online to be more than what he actually is. He called “likely voters” polling “pure BS” until I posted a link. It’s been around for decades. Of course he didn’t know this. So, he then attempts to impress us by claiming his clients require NDA’s. These must be the clients he counsels. Roflmao. When all else fails, he disappears.

Why would Royell understand the term "likely voters"? His right wing media doesn't tell him what it means. Royell believes in imaginary internal poll numbers and a "silent majority" that doesn't exist. Right wing Rasmussen and Faux show Benedict Donald losing in a landslide to Joe Biden and he still refuses to believe.     

[Paul May]

Why would Royell understand the term "likely voters"? His right wing media doesn't tell him what it means. Royell believes in imaginary internal poll numbers and a "silent majority" that doesn't exist. Right wing Rasmussen and Faux show Benedict Donald losing in a landslide to Joe Biden and he still refuses to believe.   

So agree. I guess his “internal” polling isn’t showing Trump’s base is growing smaller and smaller. Not hard to figure. They too are dying in this pandemic that their leader believes will disappear really soon. Just around the corner.

[Michael T. Griffith]

So agree. I guess his “internal” polling isn’t showing Trump’s base is growing smaller and smaller. Not hard to figure. They too are dying in this pandemic that their leader believes will disappear really soon. Just around the corner.

You really need to leave the COVID-19 panic party and get a grip on reality. Do you realize that the U.S. COVID-19 crude death rate is 0.04276%. That is is 23 times lower than 1%. A crude death rate of 1% among the U.S. population would equal 3,282,000 deaths. After nearly six months into the pandemic, we are nowhere near that number. We're at 143,000 COVID-19 deaths, and the case death rate has *dropped* since most states began to reopen, whereas it skyrocketed for several weeks 2-3 weeks after the lockdowns began, which should not happened according to panic peddlers.

The 1957-1958 Asian Flu pandemic killed the modern equivalent of 216,000 Americans. Yet, there was no lockdown, no shutting down of half the economy, no putting millions of people out of work, no mass closing of schools, etc. Why did we not close schools, shut down half the economy, and put millions of people out of work? Because we decided that such a "cure" be too destructive compared to a more moderate approach.

To put this into further context, consider the following annual death tolls from other causes of death in the U.S.:

640,000 --- heart disease
590,000 --- cancer
250,000 --- medical errors
169,000 –- accidents
160,000 --- chronic lower respiratory diseases

Imagine if the major news outlets reported on medical errors in the same way that most of them have reported on COVID-19. Medical errors kill about 250,000 Americans each year, or about 684 per day, 4,700 per week, or 20,800 per month. Imagine the panic that would occur if we were subjected to daily reports like the following:

“Yesterday over 600 Americans died from medical errors.”
“Last week, 30% more Americans went to the doctor than usual, and the number of deaths from medical errors rose by 4,500.”
“The death toll from medical errors continues to rise, with over 1,800 American dying from medical errors over the last three days alone.”
“Three months into this year have seen over 60,000 Americans die from medical errors.”

The substantial majority of Americans who catch COVID-19 have at least a 98.7% chance of *not* dying from it, according to every statistic we have. People aged 1-49 who catch the virus have a survival rate of at least 99.5%. The **overall average** survival rate in the U.S. is 95.8%, but you really need to look at the survival rates by age group because there is a huge difference between the rates for ages 65 and over and the rates for ages 64 and below.

And, yes, we most certainly can and should reopen the schools:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/18/a-new-report-by-health-policy-experts-shows-path-to-reopen-schools/

[Rick Plant]

You really need to leave the COVID-19 panic party and get a grip on reality. Do you realize that the U.S. COVID-19 crude death rate is 0.04276%. That is is 23 times lower than 1%. A crude death rate of 1% among the U.S. population would equal 3,282,000 deaths. After nearly six months into the pandemic, we are nowhere near that number. We're at 143,000 COVID-19 deaths, and the case death rate has *dropped* since most states began to reopen, whereas it skyrocketed for several weeks 2-3 weeks after the lockdowns began, which should not happened according to panic peddlers.

The 1957-1958 Asian Flu pandemic killed the modern equivalent of 216,000 Americans. Yet, there was no lockdown, no shutting down of half the economy, no putting millions of people out of work, no mass closing of schools, etc. Why did we not close schools, shut down half the economy, and put millions of people out of work? Because we decided that such a "cure" be too destructive compared to a more moderate approach.

To put this into further context, consider the following annual death tolls from other causes of death in the U.S.:

640,000 --- heart disease
590,000 --- cancer
250,000 --- medical errors
169,000 –- accidents
160,000 --- chronic lower respiratory diseases

Imagine if the major news outlets reported on medical errors in the same way that most of them have reported on COVID-19. Medical errors kill about 250,000 Americans each year, or about 684 per day, 4,700 per week, or 20,800 per month. Imagine the panic that would occur if we were subjected to daily reports like the following:

“Yesterday over 600 Americans died from medical errors.”
“Last week, 30% more Americans went to the doctor than usual, and the number of deaths from medical errors rose by 4,500.”
“The death toll from medical errors continues to rise, with over 1,800 American dying from medical errors over the last three days alone.”
“Three months into this year have seen over 60,000 Americans die from medical errors.”

The substantial majority of Americans who catch COVID-19 have at least a 98.7% chance of *not* dying from it, according to every statistic we have. People aged 1-49 who catch the virus have a survival rate of at least 99.5%. The **overall average** survival rate in the U.S. is 95.8%, but you really need to look at the survival rates by age group because there is a huge difference between the rates for ages 65 and over and the rates for ages 64 and below.

And, yes, we most certainly can and should reopen the schools:

https://thefederalist.com/2020/07/18/a-new-report-by-health-policy-experts-shows-path-to-reopen-schools/

  disinformation

There isn't one major country facing this disaster that we are. Making bogus comparisons to cover up for Benedict Donald is disgraceful.

Hospitals and doctors are in a panic because all the ICU beds are full. They have no place to put severely sick people.

In Phoenix, they have no place to store dead bodies. They are using temporary refrigerator trucks. I'm tired of all these idiots downplaying this disaster we have going on.

This is not normal and could have been avoided of we had competent leadership. We will once again when Joe Biden is elected in a massive landslide.       

[Rick Plant]

And here we get a view of this amazing 'silent majority' we hear so much about directly behind Eric "Gums" Trump which are thousands of empty blue seats. Benedict Donald couldn't even fill a 19,000 seat arena in the most conservative city in America. He is unpopular in red states too.   

[Royell Storing]

I continue hearing how enthusiastic Trump’s base is. That Joe Biden has no enthusiasm. Joe is a fairly low key guy. That being said, the national enthusiasm not necessarily for Joe but to remove the maniac in the WH is growing and growing. We’re past the stage of polling registered voters.Those being polled now, some 100 days before the election are likely voters. As the enthusiasm grows against Trump, that will be reflected in polling #’s. Trump’s base is shrinking. He knows that, hence he fired his campaign manager. The panic is setting in. It will only grow worse as the summer wears on and more Americans die from pandemic. Never, ever has there been less leadership nationally in America. Americans came together after Pearl Harbor. After 9/11. They will again 11/3.

   Bump regarding  claim that, "Those being polled NOW, some 100 days before the election are "Likely Voters".  ABC/WashPost RECENTLY  questioned a "RANDOM SAMPLE/1,006". YOU do Not Know, what YOU do Not Know.