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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6132 on: May 23, 2023, 10:18:51 PM »
Trump's big mouth is getting him into 'deeper trouble' and could get him incarcerated: legal expert

Donald Trump cannot help himself when it comes to making inflammatory comments about his own legal jeopardy, and former Manhattan Assistant District Attorney Jeremy Saland argued on Tuesday that could send him to jail.

Appearing on CNN, Saland said that Trump's habit of incriminating himself in public statements -- as well as his attacks on judges, prosecutors, and witnesses -- was coming back to haunt him.

"His words [are] getting him deeper and deeper in trouble," he argued. "Ultimately this is going to catch up to him. He's got Georgia, the city of New York, now he has the federal probe that's been ongoing, just one on top of the other. The more he does this, and the more he uses his words without his counsel... he will find himself in deeper trouble legally. I would not be shocked ultimately if he does end up incarcerated, which is something I would not have thought months ago."

Saland was then asked why he now thought jail time for Trump was more likely than not.

"So many different things that are developing that are really significant crimes," he replied, and in particular pointed to evidence piling up against Trump in the Mar-a-Lago documents case that could easily get him slapped with felony charges.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6133 on: May 24, 2023, 04:56:36 AM »
Donald Trump just posted a letter that his attorneys have sent to Attorney General Merrick Garland, asking for an emergency meeting to discuss the “injustices” the DOJ is carrying out. Trump’s lawyers must be expecting Trump to be indicted by Jack Smith within the week.

This is the letter that Trump posted publicly this evening:



Trump’s team also got the Wall Street Journal to publish an article this evening acknowledging that Trump is likely about to be indicted by Jack Smith in the classified documents case, but spinning it as a good thing for Trump because he’ll be able to fundraise off it.

Trump’s lawyers wouldn’t *know* his indictment is imminent, unless Jack Smith has informed them about it. Which is possible.

It’s also possible Trump’s lawyers are just guessing. But they have such a front row seat to this case, it would be a well educated guess.

To be clear, this letter will have zero impact on anything. It’s not even a stall tactic. Trump’s lawyers are doing this just so they can say to Trump that they did *something* to fight back. Even though this isn’t anything.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6134 on: May 24, 2023, 05:22:38 AM »
Jack Smith has essentially completed his Trump classified documents probe, according to a new WSJ article that’s written entirely from Trump’s lawyers’ point of view and is pretty clearly sourced to them.

Even they’re admitting Trump is likely about to be indicted. ;D

Since this article is pretty clearly coming from Trump’s lawyers, they don’t know for certain what Smith is doing. But they do have a front row seat in terms of witnesses having testified and such.

What’s remarkable is that this WSJ article is Trump’s lawyers’ best attempt at spinning the whole thing positively for them, and the best they could come up with it the narrative that Trump will be indicted and it’ll be good for his fundraising. THIS is their best spin. :D

In other words, Trump’s lawyers expect him to be indicted any day now, and they’re trying to get out ahead of it.

They don’t *know* Jack Smith’s timeline, unless he’s informed them. But they clearly have a pretty good idea that it’s about to happen.

To be clear, if Trump’s lawyers thought there were *any* chance he weren’t being indicted, they’d be leaking that he was off the hook, in the hope they’d end up being proven right, so they could look smart for it.

This is surrender.

Special Counsel Is Wrapping Up Trump Mar-a-Lago Probe
Some Trump associates anticipate an indictment and raising funds off it
https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-is-wrapping-up-trump-mar-a-lago-probe-99cd2517

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6135 on: May 24, 2023, 08:10:50 AM »
Donald Trump just posted a letter that his attorneys have sent to Attorney General Merrick Garland, asking for an emergency meeting to discuss the “injustices” the DOJ is carrying out. Trump’s lawyers must be expecting Trump to be indicted by Jack Smith within the week.

This is the letter that Trump posted publicly this evening:



Trump’s team also got the Wall Street Journal to publish an article this evening acknowledging that Trump is likely about to be indicted by Jack Smith in the classified documents case, but spinning it as a good thing for Trump because he’ll be able to fundraise off it.

Trump’s lawyers wouldn’t *know* his indictment is imminent, unless Jack Smith has informed them about it. Which is possible.

It’s also possible Trump’s lawyers are just guessing. But they have such a front row seat to this case, it would be a well educated guess.

To be clear, this letter will have zero impact on anything. It’s not even a stall tactic. Trump’s lawyers are doing this just so they can say to Trump that they did *something* to fight back. Even though this isn’t anything.

Merrick Garland has declined Trump’s attorneys’ request tonight for an emergency meeting. Garland’s office said to the media that “Jack Smith is running this investigation.” No surprise here. Garland appointed Smith to indict Trump, and now he’s simply letting Smith do his job.

Donald Trump can cc as many “Representatives of Congress” as he wants. There is literally nothing they can to do prevent, delay, or sabotage Jack Smith’s indictment. Trump is simply desperate and begging for help from people who can’t give it to him. Donnie knows he's finished and headed to prison for his many crimes he committed. 

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Re: Donald Trump Indicted!
« Reply #6136 on: May 24, 2023, 09:33:58 AM »
It turns out Jack Smith has Donald Trump nailed all the way back to 2017.

Based on the grand jury testimony that DOJ Special Counsel Jack Smith has recently pulled off against Donald Trump, it’s pretty clear that Smith is close to criminally indicting Trump in relation to his classified documents scandal and January 6th. There has also been reporting that Smith is targeting Trump for wire fraud in relation to post-2020 fundraising. Now it turns out Smith has cast a much broader net.

Jack Smith has also subpoenaed the financial records of the Trump Organization’s business deals with seven foreign nations dating back to 2017, according to the New York Times. While this reporting is new, the subpoena is not. The Times says that the subpoena was issued at some unspecified time in the past.

This is yet another instance of Jack Smith investigating some aspect of Donald Trump’s crime spree and nailing him on it, and then the media and the public only find out about it after the fact. By now Smith has surely found what he was looking for. And given that Smith was apparently looking to tie Trump’s international business deals to the decisions he made as President, Trump should be very worried that Smith is looking to bring down every inch of Trump’s house of cards.

As always, keep in mind that Jack Smith – like every other prosecutor out there – knows how to read a calendar. He understands that he has to bring his charges against Trump (or at least the first round of charges) with enough time to hold a trial and get Trump convicted and imprisoned before we even get to the heart of the 2024 election cycle. Trump has a handful of legal tools at his disposal for delaying the start of any criminal trial, but those are finite in number, and a seasoned prosecutor like Smith will have also factored that into his timeframe.

So while it may feel as if Jack Smith just keeps expanding his criminal probe into new areas of Donald Trump’s life, in reality these “new” angles of investigation happened awhile back. As tends to happen in any pre-indictment criminal probe, particularly a federal one, we tend to learn about various details long after they’ve played out. Smith’s case is clearly well ahead of where the media’s reporting on Smith’s case is, because Smith is carrying out his case as secretly as possible. But once Smith indicts Trump, get ready for a floodgate of information to open about just how broad this probe has been all along.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6137 on: May 24, 2023, 09:55:59 AM »
Jack Smith has essentially completed his Trump classified documents probe, according to a new WSJ article that’s written entirely from Trump’s lawyers’ point of view and is pretty clearly sourced to them.

Even they’re admitting Trump is likely about to be indicted. ;D

Since this article is pretty clearly coming from Trump’s lawyers, they don’t know for certain what Smith is doing. But they do have a front row seat in terms of witnesses having testified and such.

What’s remarkable is that this WSJ article is Trump’s lawyers’ best attempt at spinning the whole thing positively for them, and the best they could come up with it the narrative that Trump will be indicted and it’ll be good for his fundraising. THIS is their best spin. :D

In other words, Trump’s lawyers expect him to be indicted any day now, and they’re trying to get out ahead of it.

They don’t *know* Jack Smith’s timeline, unless he’s informed them. But they clearly have a pretty good idea that it’s about to happen.

To be clear, if Trump’s lawyers thought there were *any* chance he weren’t being indicted, they’d be leaking that he was off the hook, in the hope they’d end up being proven right, so they could look smart for it.

This is surrender.

Special Counsel Is Wrapping Up Trump Mar-a-Lago Probe
Some Trump associates anticipate an indictment and raising funds off it
https://www.wsj.com/articles/special-counsel-is-wrapping-up-trump-mar-a-lago-probe-99cd2517

The biggest news of the day: Trump’s attorneys may have just tipped off that Jack Smith is indicting Trump *right now* for classified documents, and will then bring the other charges (1/6, wire fraud, etc) as they’re ready, as opposed to waiting to bring all the charges at once.

To be clear, I’m basing this chiefly on the article that Trump’s lawyers got the Wall Street Journal to publish tonight. This is where they admit that they expect Smith to imminently indict Trump for docs, and don’t know the timeframe for the other cases.

There was always zero chance that Merrick Garland would take Trump meeting, or help Trump avoid indictment, or hinder Jack Smith’s case in any way. If you were expecting otherwise, it’s only because you were being fed a fictional version of Garland by the media and pundit class.

Jack Smith’s timing here isn’t surprising. All along the appeals court was set to rule in late May on whether Jack Smith was allowed to use the testimony and notes he’d gotten from Evan Corcoran. Couple days ago, media appeared to tip off that Corcoran’s notes were a go. And now Trump’s lawyers are acting like he could be indicted at any minute. If Smith was indeed only waiting for that final ruling, and he got it, then he’s no longer waiting for anything else to come through, and he’s indicting. And Trump’s lawyers know he’s indicting. And they’re doing that last minute panic routine that you do once you’re at a point where you know the hammer is days, maybe hours, from dropping. That kind of panic routine doesn’t change anything, and isn’t even meant to change anything, and is really just about conning yourself (or your idiot client) into thinking that you somehow still have some sliver of a say in what’s about to happen. But you don’t. Because it’s already over for you. Bon voyage, Donald Trump. You did it to yourself.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #6138 on: May 24, 2023, 10:22:37 AM »
'I think they're desperate': Trump biographer slams letter from Trump lawyers to Garland



The letter Donald Trump posted Tuesday night showing his attorneys demanding a meeting with Attorney General Merrick Garland shows Trump's lawyers are "desperate" in their handling of special counsel Jack Smith's probe, according to the former president's biographer.

Appearing on the 11th Hour with Stephanie Ruhle, Tim O'Brien, author of TrumpNation: The Art of Being the Donald, was asked what he thought of the letter, in which Trump's lawyers, John Rowley and Jim Trusty, say Trump is being "treated unfairly" in the investigations into his role in the events of Jan. 6, 2021, as well as the documents improperly kept at Mar-a-Lago.

"I think they're desperate," O'Brien said to the host. "This is not an astute or strategic action by lawyers who feel like they are in control of a narrative or that they are in control of where this particular investigation is heading. They are doing what Trump has always done. They are trying to politicize an investigation and they are not responsive around the law or the rule of law."

O'Brien also called into question the narrative that Trump can easily beat back all types of investigations.

"Trump, for all of the mythology around trump having nine lives in terms of being held accountable in the courtroom, he's never in his entire life face the kind of heavyweight investigations that surround him on a number of fronts by very purposeful prosecutors who are assembling the fact pattern and trying to determine whether he committed financial fraud, whether he tried to overturn the 2020 election illegally, whether he abused the power of his office in terms of mishandling classified documents, and on and on," he added.

For their part, O'Brien said, prosecutors are in a time crunch.

"I think there is some urgency on the part of the prosecutors now to bring some of these things to a close so they are not occurring and the meat of the prosecution is not occurring during the primary season next year at least some of the initial filings," he said. "And I think there is a lot of desperation in the Trump camp about all of this."

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Trump's team thinks Jack Smith indictment referral is a 'foregone conclusion': impeachment lawyer

Former President Donald Trump posted a letter from his attorneys on Tuesday evening, demanding a meeting with Attorney General Merrick Garland to discuss the "outrageous and unlawful" investigations by special counsel Jack Smith, who is weighing whether to pursue charges against the former president for either the January 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, or the theft and retention of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago resort.

Speaking to CNN's Abby Phillip during a panel, Robert Ray, who succeeded Ken Starr as independent counsel in the Whitewater investigation and advised Trump during his first impeachment, suggested that this is an ominous sign for Trump.

"They assume there will be a charging decision near, because all signs are that these cases both the January 6th investigations and the documents investigation case are wrapping up or coming close to wrapping up, and want to get in their say before anything might happen," said New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman. "I don't know how this will be received or taken. But yes, it speaks to the fact that they are taking this incredibly seriously and want to deal with it."

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