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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5803 on: September 05, 2022, 09:25:54 AM »
President Biden is 100% correct when he said MAGA Republicans are a threat to our democracy.

Ex-FBI official explains why he's more worried now than when he was chasing Al Qaeda and ISIS



Former CIA and FBI official Phil Mudd revealed that he no longer works in the intelligence community, but he's still concerned about threats against his life.

While working at the FBI, Mudd served as the Deputy Director of the Central Intelligence Agency's Counterterrorism Center during the years after Sept. 11. He's written two books on the US's hunt for Al Qaeda terrorists and was on the front lines of the attempts to bring down those who aligned with the group.

Speaking to PBS in 2005, Mudd said, "we would be foolish to assume that there are not people here who either act like Al Qaeda or who want to act like Al Qaeda, who see the world with the same vision Al Qaeda has. ... And again, it would be foolish for us to think they're not here."

Yet, 17 years later, Mudd is worried again, but this time, it's radical right-wing, Republican terrorists from home-grown MAGA cells.

"It makes me nervous. In some ways, I'm glad to be out," Mudd told CNN's Jim Acosta on Sunday. "You're talking about the professional part of this. How do you conduct an investigation with a former president vilifying the FBI? But in a personal level, remember people who are in the service have to go home to a spouse, or a girlfriend or family, including children, and say we're going into a midterm election cycle with there are election deniers who will listen to the president. And maybe more significantly into a 2024 election cycle when it's conceivable, obviously, that you could once again have President Biden versus President Trump. If you have public information, for example, information about your home address, information on social media, and you're an FBI agent, what would you think, Jim?"

He continued, saying that during the days that he was at the FBI and the CIA "chasing ISIS and Al Qaeda. And let me close with this, I would be more concerned about going to my home residence today than I was when I was in the papers with stories about chasing Al Qaeda and ISIS. I don't know how to make it clearer. You have to be concerned about personal security.

"It is that bad?" asked Acosta.

"Yeah," Mudd said frankly.

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Trump shouldn't 'be above the law' for taking top secret docs: former admin official



According to CNN contributor Alyssah Farah Griffin -- who served as Donald Trump's White House Director of Strategic Communications -- her former boss should be held to account for taking top secret documents to his Mar-a-Lago resort and leaving them sitting around.

Sitting on a panel with fellow Trump administration aides Stephanie Grisham and Olivia Troye -- all of whom expressed disgust with the former president's actions -- Farah Griffin asserted there should not be a separate set of rules for the former president.

Agreeing with former attorney general Bill Barr, who said on Fox News that the DOJ had every right to search the Florida resort for stolen documents, Farah Griffin adamantly claimed Trump is "not above the law."

"Every one of us, I believe, held a security clearance in government," she began. "There are very specific protocols to even handle these documents. If you physically take them out of a building, you need a certified carry card, you need a lead-covered bag so it can evade x-rays."

"He [Trump] has them co-located with his Time magazine covers at a country club in Florida that's been a target for espionage," she exclaimed. "There is no way that this is acceptable if you don't believe in a two-tiered system of justice where a former president is above the law. And I would just note, you know, Trump rallied last night in Pennsylvania and it descended into a 'lock her up' chant about Hillary Clinton."

"The reason Republicans like myself asked for her to be investigated was mishandling of classified information -- exactly what Donald Trump is doing in Mar-a-Lago," she added.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5804 on: September 05, 2022, 09:37:02 AM »
To be clear, Trump didn't misspeak on Saturday night. He insisted that "Zuckerberg visited him at the White House last week" and informed Trump that "he's #1 on Facebook."

Trump has been kicked off from Facebook for a long time.

Trump's entire story on Saturday is a hallucination of some kind. He's either hopped up on some drugs or his dementia is getting worse.

Watch the video in the Twitter link below to see this mess. Donnie is out of his mind!


Ron Filipkowski @RonFilipkowski

He is high as a kite. He said Zuckerberg visited him at the WH last week. Dude is flying.

Watch: https://twitter.com/i/status/1566220480905895940

https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1566241214600564738

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5805 on: September 05, 2022, 04:13:22 PM »
Biden Laid the Trap. Trump Walked Into It.

At his Pennsylvania rally, the former president gave exactly the narcissistic display his Democratic nemesis tried to provoke.

https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/trump-pennsylvania-rally-republicans/671344/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5806 on: September 05, 2022, 10:39:09 PM »
MAGA Republicans keep proving they are anti American. How can you not "notice" that large anti American flag?

A lame excuse by Hernandez after he got caught and received severe backlash.

These right wing militias are the MAGA Republican base and they were at the Capitol on January 6th rioting and attempting to overthrow the government.

President Biden is right about MAGA Republicans being a danger to democracy.       


Michigan GOP candidate deletes photo of him standing in front of anti-government militia's flag



The Republican candidate for Michigan's lieutenant governor is apologizing after he posted a photo to Twitter showing him in front of a flag associated with an anti-government militia, Fox 2 Detroit reports.

Shane Hernandez was blasted by Michigan Democrats after posting the photo on social media.

"As Michiganders spend their holiday weekend celebrating the freedoms earned by American workers, Shane Hernandez proudly stood by the anti-government, extremist Three Percenters flag. His shameful support for the anti-American militia fits right in with Tudor Dixon’s dangerous, wrong-for-Michigan agenda to slash funding for law enforcement and undermine democracy," the party said in a statement.

In response, Hernandez "disavowed" the Three Percenters militia group's flag and "any such sentiments" it's affiliated with.

"Regarding my last post, I bought 8oz of honey from a small business owner, and he wanted to take a picture with me at his booth," Hernandez wrote on Twitter. "When I posted the picture, I did not notice the flag in the background."

According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, the group's "perceptions of tyranny emanate from the radical conspiracy theories and paranoia rooted in the decades-old antigovernment extremist movement, and have repeatedly led to violence against America’s law enforcement, citizens and residents."

Hernandez is Tudor Dixon's running mate and was nominated to be the Republican lieutenant governor candidate in August.

https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/republican-candidate-for-lieutenant-governor-deletes-post-with-extremist-militia-flag

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5807 on: September 06, 2022, 09:59:50 AM »
Judge Cannon 'engaged herself in obstruction of justice': Experts sound the alarm on Trump documents ruling



Donald Trump's hand-picked judge in Florida put a hold on the documents seized by the Justice Department at Trump's Mar-a-Lago resort in Florida.

In an opinion that is likely to be challenged by the DOJ, U.S. District Judge Aileen Cannon ordered that a special master be appointed to review the documents that investigators said have already been filtered and sifted through by those with the proper security clearance.

Cannon writes that executive privilege, in addition to Trump's attorney-client privilege, is on the table for the special master and that all of the documents can be reviewed. But some legal experts think that it is likely to be challenged.

Berkeley Law Professor Jonah Glbach explained that as well as the special master, "Cannon has entered a temporary injunction restraining the government from review or use of the items seized from Mar-a-Lago for 'criminal investigative purposes.'" That puts a stop to the progression of the investigation, which certainly delays any possible indictment of the former president.

Gelbach noted that Cannon listed off four elements that Trump must establish to get an injunction, and then doesn't find that Trump has some of them.

"Her basis for finding 'a' likelihood is, she says, contained in part III of her Discussion, at pages 14-18," he continued. "But part III is full of couched language like 'arguably' and 'the Court is not convinced' and 'evidence from which to call that premise into question.'"

It made him ask how "likelihood" could be part of a court ruling. "In sum, Judge Cannon *correctly (sic) stated the legal requirement of a substantial likelihood *then declared only that she'd found 'a likelihood,' based on a discussion in which she makes no such finding, repeatedly indicating uncertainty about the merits of the review process. That alone looks like [an] abuse of discretion and thus reversible error to me. I assume that will be one point in DOJ's inevitable appeal of the preliminary injunction to CA11."

"This is one of the strongest critiques — that the order doesn’t address the threshold issue of how executive privilege applies against executive inquiry," wrote attorney Ken White, who goes by "Popehat." He disputes that the decision is a "catastrophe" for the Justice Department and some seem to think that it will be overturned anyway. "Even if the order isn’t a catastrophe, I think the observation that the court bent over backwards for Trump on every issue is a fair assessment."

The piece of the ruling he thinks are worthy of the "freakout" is what will likely be part of the reason for the appeal to ensure there's no written case law.

"Those would include (a) the identity of the special master, (b) the scope of their assignment, (c) her further orders ruling on the special master’s findings, (d) 11th circuit or SCOTUS emergency action," White wrote. He also noted that any MAGA Republicans saying that the judge stopped the criminal investigation is woefully ill-informed.

"The judge shut down, for now, [the] review of documents seized from Mar-a-Lago. The criminal investigation existed before that and will continue on other channels as before," said White.

American Enterprise Institute's Norm Ornstein noted that Cannon shouldn't even have taken the case to begin with.

"It was in the hands of the magistrate judge, she was picked by Trump's lawyers solely because she was a Trumpist, in a jurisdiction nowhere near Mar-a-Lago. She has an effect engaged herself in obstruction of justice," he alleged.

Steve Vladeck, who serves as the Charles Alan Wright Chair in Federal Courts at the University of Texas Law School, similarly called the ruling "preposterous." He highlighted "the part where it blocks the government from continuing to use materials already in its possession. At the very least, that last ruling creates an immediately appealable injunctive-like order, which DOJ can now take to the Eleventh Circuit."

While the 11th Circuit isn't exactly the most friendly to progressive causes, the law is written clearly, the analysts agree. Taking the case to the Supreme Court would require a revisiting of whether the existing president is the official "executive" and thus rules "executive privilege." Trump allies like Allen Dershowitz has argued that all presidents should govern their own executive privilege and that the existing president shouldn't have any power over past president's documents and information.

Former acting Solicitor General Neal Kayal called it outright "Crazytown," with former U.S. Attorney Joyce White Vance posting her own agreement.

But it was a former prosecutor for special counsel Robert Mueller, Andrew Weissmann, who issued a blistering takedown.

"I truly hoped Judge Cannon would adhere to the rule of law, but she in fact is now another illustration of the insidiousness of Trump and the Big Lie. And how he has infected formerly mainstream Republicans," he said on Monday.

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-judge-cannon-obstruction-justice/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5808 on: September 06, 2022, 10:05:58 AM »
One chart legal expert says could be used in the indictment of Trump's conspiracy to overthrow the election



In a live Labor Day special by Ari Melber, former federal prosecutor John P. Flannery pointed to the one chart he says is more than a mere diagram of the attempt to overthrow the election, but the perfect presentation of information that could be used to indict former President Donald Trump.

In a timeline, Melber showed the beginning of the Electors plot, the lawsuits and states attempting to overturn the 2020 votes in November. As December approached, that turned into Republican congressional officials coordinating to vote down the election certification, a lobbying effort began to get Vice President Mike Pence to refuse to certify the 2020 election, the attempt to get the military to seize voting machines, and the plotting of the Jan. 6 attack.

Thus far, it appears that the investigations have only focused on what happened involving the Jan. 6 attack and how it began. But Melber argued that looking all the way back at the efforts in November is important in understanding the insurrection. You can't pin an insurrection on one speech, he argued. But it wasn't one act. It was months of efforts leading up to Jan. 6

"I think it's a devastating indictment in an informal sense of what went wrong and how the desire to win when one lost overcame all lawful constitutional, legal and other normal barriers so that they could replace themselves in an election that they lost," Flannery said. "And I think that what you have shown is with that original intent, as they are moving forward, even through the legal cases, there's a pattern of conduct there that tells us, from the very beginning, 'we just say we won, even though we didn't.' So, you go into court, and you claim there's been misconduct, and there's not. You claim there is fraud, and there's not. And you accumulate 50 cases, and then you use the fact that you lost to try to get electors. And we move into your zone, where it becomes, without question, a crime. And you walk it up the ladder from that."

He continued: "So, could you take your charts and turn them into an indictment? Yes, you could. It could be a single conspiracy, that is to say, all these people were connected, and all knew what was going to happen, and all planned out was going to happen. That had various means to do it, and their objective was to overturn the election."

Flannery walked through the chart, showing that the lawsuits were "green" because it's completely legal to bring a lawsuit.

"However, you can't bring a lawsuit based on the false fact, or on a frivolous cause of action," said Flannery. "If he did it in one case, that would be one thing. When you have so many cases, you have a pattern of conduct of rebutting and innocent intent. What happens next? The electors are persuaded by the lawsuits that there's fraud [and] that we need alternative electors, so it could overturn the election as if the lawsuits were real and genuine, and they were not. We do know that the Justice Department is investigating the electors."

The chart then moves into the states, Congress and former Vice President Mike Pence.

"That is the motherlode," Flannery explained. "You are at a point where to take the theory that they can vote on what the electors did or didn't do, first of all, that wasn't the law. Second of all, the facts they are relying on are, themselves, fraudulent. They made the same pitch to the states. You see [Rudy] Giuliani and company doing that. They made the same pitch to Congress, and we have [Mark] Meadows and [Peter] Navarro and others in dealing with that. We have Pence, we have Trump himself trying to persuade Pence to do the dirty deed."

Finally, the last piece of the puzzle was that Trump allies at the Justice Department attempted to challenge states on the grounds that there are "questions" and thus shouldn't be counted.

"Just before the final chapter, they have the DOJ coming in to give in an extra push in Georgia and elsewhere to prosecute this crazy meshugana theory of the law to overturn an election illegally," Flannery closed. "It's a cuckoo coup, I suppose. I think it all holds up. We have enough public evidence to know this, and these people do it with several people present. So, it's not going to be hard to charge. The shame is that some of these people have been in the grand jury, but others have, recently.



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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5809 on: September 06, 2022, 10:13:16 AM »
Republican strategist says she's been sounding the alarm on the GOP turning fascist for over a year



Susan Del Percio has a history of working with Republican candidates and in Rudy Giuliani's administration, but even she thinks that the Republican Party has taken a hard turn toward fascism.

Speaking out on Monday to Joy Reid, she said that she's been sounding the alarm for over a year. Reid played a clip of Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC), who last week spoke warned of violence.

She went on to call it "a gentlemanly hat on the brown shirtism he displayed last week."

"How is it that now you have what used to be mainstream Republicans -- this was John McCain's supposed best friend -- is now justifying saying that there will be blood in the streets, basically, if Donald Trump is treated the way every single person on this panel and in this country would be treated if they stole classified documents," Reid asked.

Del Perciao said that it made her wonder what Trump has on Graham to make him change so quickly.

"There is no way to explain it, honestly," she said. "Joy, I was on your show a year ago, I said it plain and simple. We are seeing the Republican Party turn into a party of neofascism. I stand by that statement 15 months later. That's what it is, when you see the call for violence in the streets with not believing in the election results, just like Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD) said. This is a dangerous place. If we're wondering, can it happen here? It already has. January 6th happened and we could see something much worse come this Nov. if Donald Trump does, in fact, try to rile up his army, because that's what it's becoming and looking like."

Addressing the recent speech by President Joe Biden about the MAGA Republicans being anti-democracy and supporting violence like what was seen on Jan. 6 and the recent attacks on the federal government.

The Nation's Joan Walsh said that she never felt insulted when there were attacks on racists because she wasn't a racist. She applied that same logic to Republicans, who are seemingly triggered by the accusation that the right-wing has turned toward fascism.

"If you're not a fascist, then he's not talking about you," she explained.

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