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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5579 on: August 04, 2022, 07:19:50 AM »
Cipollone will spill the beans — and make it the 'worst day for Donald Trump': Watergate prosecutor

On Wednesday's edition of MSNBC's "The Beat," former Watergate prosecutor Nick Akerman laid out the significance of former Trump White House Counsel Pat Cipollone being subpoenaed by DOJ investigators to speak to a grand jury as part of their investigation into the plot to overthrow the 2020 presidential election.

This development, argued Akerman, could pose a new and grave legal threat to the former president.

"I want us to really be clear about what's happening," said anchor Ari Melber. "There is this thing, a bias in the human mind, and certainly in the news media, where you get tired of something. You say, I heard about Cipollone, so what. But from what I understand, the worst day ever in this whole thing is now, because this isn't the whole thing. This is the federal criminal probe. For someone who says 'Enough with Pat,' can you explain that?"

"I think that this is actually the worst day for Donald Trump, because Pat Cipollone is going to be talking more before the grand jury," said Akerman. "The January 6 Committee — they were concerned about getting him in there, getting Pat in there. But they bent over backwards. They allowed him, basically, to claim executive privilege with any conversations he had with Donald Trump. They allowed him to claim attorney-client privilege. None of this is going to go anywhere with the feds. He is going to claim privileges with individual questions. They will take him to a court judge, who is going to order him to testify and tell him there is no privilege. He could appeal it to the circuit court, but all of this will go much quicker behind closed doors."

Akerman proceeded to explain another key difference between the DOJ investigation and the January 6 Committee that is relevant for Cipollone.

"Unlike the committee, the Department of Justice doesn't have to worry about midterm elections, and the fact that they may not be around next year," said Akerman. "That's not going to happen. I think that the Department of Justice is going to get a lot more information from Pat Cipollone. If he thought that was his worst experience going before the committee, he is in for a major surprise when he appears before that grand jury."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5580 on: August 04, 2022, 04:48:47 PM »
DOJ expands probe with another subpoena for key Trump White House official: CNN


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5581 on: August 04, 2022, 11:17:29 PM »
Right-wing conferences have become more plentiful and more 'extreme': report



Far-right Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orbán has been drawing vehement criticism around the world for a July 23 speech in Romania, where he declared that a “mixed-race world” is harmful to western countries and promoted the racist Great Replacement theory. The speech was so racist that even long-time Orbán adviser Zsuzsa Hegedüs resigned in protest, calling it “a purely Nazi diatribe worthy of Joseph Goebbels.” But despite that controversy, the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) plans to go ahead and feature Orbán at the start of its Dallas gathering. Orbán, in fact, is scheduled to give one of the keynote speeches when the event opens on Thursday, August 4.

The four-day Dallas event, which continues through Sunday, August 7, has a far-right lineup of MAGA culture warriors. In addition to Orbán, CPAC Texas 2022 will feature former President Donald Trump, Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene of Georgia, “War Room” host and former White House Chief Strategist Steve Bannon, Rep. Lauren Boebert of Colorado, Rep. Jim Jordan of Ohio and former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin.

In an article published by Mother Jones’ website in early August and also included in the publication’s September/October 2022 print edition, journalist Stephanie Mencimer takes a look at the abundance of right-wing conferences and conventions that are being held in the U.S. in 2022 — stressing that such events have become both more plentiful and more “extreme.”

“With no analog on the left, these events are an underappreciated component of the MAGA infrastructure,” Mencimer explains. “Amplified by conservative media, they help propel candidates and influencers far beyond in-person audiences. Even as they claim to showcase the GOP’s best and brightest, they also provide a national platform for disgraced politicians, bona fide criminals, and others who might have trouble finding a real job — but discover the conference circuit to be a generous source of speaking fees and book sales. These gatherings are a stew of nationalist ideas and conspiracy theories served to the movement’s most enthusiastic base, priming them for future election battles. And oh, the merch!”

Mencimer continues, “There are now so many conservative events that they are practically a full-time job for a host of Trump acolytes…. These events also offer a springboard for purported victims of woke cancel culture or otherwise infamous actors seeking to become GOP candidates, a dynamic that pushes the party further to the extremes.”

CPAC was founded in 1974, the year in which President Richard Nixon resigned because of the Watergate scandal — and in 2022, it is way to the right of where it was 48 years ago. Never Trump conservative S.E. Cupp has slammed CPAC’s willingness to promote Orbán as a glaring example of the event’s intellectual decline.

CPAC is competing with many more right-wing events than it was in the past. Mencimer notes that when she started covering CPAC in the late 2000s, the “options” for right-wing conferences “consisted mainly of…. CPAC and the Value Voters Summit.” Now, she observes, the options also include everything from AMPFest to the Truth & Liberty Coalition Conference to the Turning Point USA Young Women’s Leadership Summit to White nationalist Nick Fuentes’ America First Political Action Conference (AFPAC).

The journalist points out that CPAC, along the way, became more and more supportive of Republican Party “wingnuts.”

“Even before the Trump era,” Mencimer notes, “CPAC was a playground for the party’s wingnuts…. A decade ago, CPAC came under fire for featuring White nationalists on a panel. Today, such views have arguably moved center stage, with Trump and Tucker Carlson as headliners. Even so, organizers walk a fine line in trying to keep out the party’s most embarrassing racists or professional trolls drawn to the show, like the vendors selling anti-Muslim t-shirts, or White nationalists like ‘groyper’ Nick Fuentes, who is always trying to crash the party. After CPAC banned them, Fuentes and the groypers started a rival conference — same time, same town."

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https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/08/trump-merch-rabid-fans-disgraced-ex-officials-inside-the-right-wing-conference-circuit/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5582 on: August 04, 2022, 11:50:38 PM »
More on Cipollone.

Federal grand jury subpoenas ex-Trump WH counsel Cipollone in 2020 election probe, source says
https://www.wishtv.com/news/federal-grand-jury-subpoenas-ex-trump-wh-counsel-cipollone-in-2020-election-probe-source-says/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5583 on: August 05, 2022, 09:23:45 AM »
GOP’s new ‘bathrooms, bedrooms and race’ mantra on display at ‘fascist’ CPAC summit: report



The Conservative Political Action Conference in Dallas, Texas was a sign of a troubling fascist direction being chosen by American conservatives.

"Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban won over the crowd at CPAC Texas on Thursday, arguing that his nationalist agenda in Hungary aligns with the goals of the American conservative movement – and sounding a lot like the conference’s upcoming Saturday keynote speaker, former President Donald Trump," CNN reported Thursday. "The right-wing European leader hit guaranteed applause lines – including telling the Texas crowd that 'Hungary is the Lone Star State of Europe' – and criticizing liberals, the news media and the Democratic Party."

During his speech, Orban said he predicted tomorrow's headlines in America would declare, "Far-Right, European Racist and Anti-Semite, Strongman, Trojan Horse of Putin, Holds Speech at Conservative Conference.

MSNBC anchor Mehdi Hasan described it as fascism and displayed a list of ten Republican election deniers on the ballot.

"They do not believe in liberal democracy," Hasan said. "And so today, in 2022, I'm sorry to say the Republican playbook is Viktor Orban playbook, and you can call that what you want, but I'm going to continue to call it fascism.

Anne Applebaum, author of the 2003 book Gulag: A History and the 2020 book Twilight of Democracy: The Seductive Lure of Authoritarianism, posted to Twitter four reasons that CPAC "admires" Orban.

"He bent the rules, changing his constitution and altering voting laws in order to remain in power, indefinitely," Applebaum wrote. "He destroyed the independent media; nothing remains but a few websites."

"He doesn't keep his homophobia, his anti-semitism or his racism a secret," Applebaum continued. "He moves, walks and talks like a Ruritanian dictator from a movie."

NYU Prof. Ruth Ben-Ghiat, the author of the book Strongmen: From Mussolini to the Present, noted that Fox News host Tucker Carlson traveled to Hungary in 2021 to hype Orban.

"Orban's appearance today at CPAC is the outcome of a carefully cultivated relationship," she said. "He can be the Big Man mentoring the GOP in how to wreck a democracy."

In May, after CPAC held a summit in Budapest, Ben-Ghiat wrote, "we can also see Orban's impact on things like the rollback of reproductive rights in the U.S. Former Vice President Mike Pence previewed the Supreme Court opinion in Budapest last fall as a speaker at Orban’s 'Summit for Democracy' where 'pro-family' agendas, meant to increase the 'right' kinds of births (white, Christian births) twinned with anti-immigrant and anti-LGBTQ platforms."

Stuart Stevens, the Lincoln Project strategist who has worked on five GOP presidential campaigns, posted, without attribution, “This is why we have always fought: we are willing to mix with one another, but we do not want to become peoples of mixed-race.”

"That’s not David Duke, it’s Viktor Orban, the star of CPAC, the new darling of American conservatism," Stevens noted. "Bathrooms, bedrooms & race. That’s who they are."

Reflecting on the embrace of Orban by the far-right, civil rights lawyer Sherrilyn Ifill noted, "over 400,000 Americans were killed in WWII-a war in which 88% of the soldiers were white. And yet we see so many Americans (mostly white) so readily defile the sacrifice of their grandparents and forbears who fought in WWII and defeated fascism, by embracing the rise of fascism here."

"And perhaps that’s because so many who fought fascism abroad were still prepared to tolerate, embrace or promote white supremacy and racism at home. And there’s the rub," Ifill wrote. "Orban and Trump’s rhetoric is not alien to this country. It had been pushed to the margins. But it is not alien."

And that’s why we have to confront and grapple with the contradictions of our history," she counseled. "So that we can understand what calls will resonate in times of fear and stress-calls that repeat earlier unresolved contradictions and threaten the project of building a healthy multi-racial democracy."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5584 on: August 05, 2022, 09:35:43 AM »
Mini Trump is at it again.

Suspended Florida prosecutor hits back at Ron DeSantis and reveals suspected motive



On Thursday, Florida Politics reported that Andrew Warren, the Democratic state prosecutor of Hillsborough County, Florida, is hitting back at Gov. Ron DeSantis after he moved to suspend him from office.

“People need to understand this isn’t the Governor trying to suspend the one elected official," said Warren. “This is the Governor trying to overthrow democracy here in Hillsborough County.”

Florida is unusual among states in that county prosecutors are elected directly, but that the governor has the authority to suspend them from office. DeSantis took this action against Warren, a progressive prosecutor who was elected on criminal justice reform, because of his refusal to enforce the state's 15-week abortion ban and prohibition on gender-affirming care for children. In his place, DeSantis has installed Susan Lopez, a right-wing lawyer he previously appointed as Hillsborough County Judge.

“We’re protecting people’s rights; we have fought so hard for public safety and fairness and justice," Warren said. "If the Governor thinks he can do a better job, then he should run for state attorney — not President. The Governor wants to do his sideshow with his cronies. I’m the one who’s upholding the law.” He added that regarding abortion and gender-affirming care prosecutions, "None of those cases have been brought to us. We’re not anticipating those cases being brought to us," and urged any concerned to ask the county sheriff if any such cases are even being investigated.

“I think the Governor is trying to make a good impression on the Iowa caucus voters,” Warren added.

This comes as DeSantis, thought to be a potential presidential rival to former President Donald Trump in 2024, wages furious culture wars on a number of fronts, even playing chicken with a federal requirement that schools protect LGBTQ students' rights as a condition of receiving meal funding.

Read More Here: https://floridapolitics.com/archives/544227-the-irony-is-a-little-rich-andrew-warren-slams-desantis-over-suspension/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5585 on: August 05, 2022, 09:46:21 AM »
Trump's legal team now in 'direct communication' with DOJ officials about J6 criminal investigation: report



Attorneys for Donald Trump, the former president, are now in direct talks with officials from the U.S. Dept. of Justice.

CNN in its breaking news exclusive calls it "the first sign of talks between the two sides as the criminal probe into January 6, 2021, accelerates."

"The talks revolve around whether Trump would be able to shield conversations he had while he was president from federal investigators," including "whether any communications that witnesses from the Trump West Wing had with the former president can be kept from a federal criminal grand jury under Trump's claims of executive privilege."

Legal experts generally default to executive privilege resting with the sitting U.S. president, but DOJ has also not prosecuted former top Trump officials, including Mark Meadows, after Congress voted to convict him on contempt charges for not cooperating with the House Select Committee on the January 6 Attack's investigation.

"Mark Meadows could be a key witness," CNN reveals.

"Trump has specifically been counseled to cut contact with his former White House chief of staff," CNN adds, "whose actions leading up to and on the day of the US Capitol insurrection have been deeply scrutinized by the House panel."

"In recent months," CNN states, "the former President has ignored advice from some of his advisers to avoid speaking with former and current aides who have become entangled in the House select committee's probe into January 6 and may become part of the criminal investigation, people familiar with the matter told CNN."

NYU professor of law and former Special Counsel at the Dept. of Defense, Ryan Goodman, pointing to the Meadows news offered this insight: "Sounds like Trump team worried Meadows will flip and cooperate with DOJ."

Read More Here: https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/04/politics/trump-justice-department-january-6-criminal-investigation/index.html