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« Reply #5509 on: July 15, 2022, 03:23:46 PM »
‘Beyond outrageous’: Morning Joe unloads on Secret Service coverup

MSNBC's Joe Scarborough ripped the U.S. Secret Service for apparently conspiring to help cover up actions to help Donald Trump carry out the Jan. 6 insurrection.

The agency erased text messages from Jan. 5 and 6, 2021, after the Department of Homeland Security's internal watchdog asked for records of electronic communications related to the insurrection, according to a letter sent to Congress, and the "Morning Joe" host called out pro-Trump agent Tony Ortano and other loyalists to the former president within the Secret Service.

"Maybe he's close enough to Donald Trump that he wants to commit perjury and go to jail, and hope that his buddy will go to jail and meet him there," Scarborough said. "This is beyond outrageous, what is going on with the Secret Service. It's outrageous, the lies that they're telling behind the scenes. It's outrageous, again, that the inspector general says, 'I asked for these texts on Jan. 5 and Jan. 6,' and they deleted them after the request."

"You know, you know that people are going to want the text messages and the text exchanges for those two days, two of the most significant days," Scarborough added. "You know, this is like, actually, if there were text messages and emails, this would be like FDR's administration going out to the guy that was running the radio tower, saying, 'Please, if you could, preserve all of your electronic emails and correspondence from, you know, Dec. 6 and Dec. 7, 1941, so we can see what happened,' then they destroy them. That's exactly what happened here."

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« Reply #5510 on: July 15, 2022, 11:18:50 PM »
Exclusive: Fulton County DA sends 'target' letters to Trump allies in Georgia investigation

ATLANTA — In the latest sign that she is moving rapidly in her investigation into Donald Trump’s efforts to overturn the 2020 election, Fulton County, Ga., District Attorney Fani Willis has sent so-called target letters to prominent Georgia Republicans informing them they could be indicted for their role in a scheme to appoint alternate electors pledged to the former president despite Joe Biden’s victory in the state, according to legal sources familiar with the matter.

The move by Willis, a Democrat, could have major political implications in a crucial battleground state with high-profile races for governor and the U.S. Senate this fall. Among the recipients of the target letters, the sources said, are GOP state Sen. Burt Jones, Gov. Brian Kemp’s running mate for lieutenant governor; David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party; and state Sen. Brandon Beach.

Jones and Shafer were among those who participated in a closed-door meeting at the state Capitol on Dec. 14, 2020, in which 16 Georgia Republicans selected themselves as the electors for the state, although they had no legal basis for doing so. Shafer, according to a source who was present, presided over the meeting, conducting it as though it were an official proceeding, in which those present voted themselves as the bona fide electors in Georgia — and then signed their names to a declaration to that effect that was sent to the National Archives.

The offices or spokespersons for Jones, Shafer and Beach did not respond to requests for comment. Willis, in an interview, declined any comment on the target letters. But she confirmed she is considering another potentially controversial move: requesting that Trump himself testify under oath to the special grand jury investigating his conduct.

“Yes,” said Willis when asked if there was any chance Trump will be called to testify. “I think it's something that we’re still weighing and evaluating.” She also said she had spoken to Dwight Thomas, a veteran local defense lawyer who has been retained to represent Trump, as recently as Thursday. She declined to say what they talked about. Thomas did not respond to requests for comment.

Willis also brushed aside the possibility that she will be sharply criticized by state Republicans, and perhaps others, for using her powerful prosecutorial position to target political adversaries. “I don’t make decisions based on what people say about me,” she said.

Charlie Bailey is the Democratic candidate for lieutenant governor and a close ally of Willis (she recently helped sponsor a fundraiser for him). He has made Jones’s role in the so-called fake elector scheme a major issue in his campaign. “To come in and say: 'No, the voters don’t matter, and I get to decide, the party gets to decide who wins this election,' that is authoritarian,” Bailey said in an interview on the Yahoo News "Skullduggery" podcast this week. “It’s the most un-American thing you can do.”

The plan by the Trump campaign to designate alternative electors was not limited to Georgia. Pro-Trump Republicans in Wisconsin, Arizona, Nevada, Pennsylvania, New Mexico and Michigan took similar steps — bolstered by constitutional lawyer John Eastman’s view that alternate electors could provide a basis for then-Vice President Mike Pence to reject the certification of Biden’s victory on Jan. 6, 2021.

But details about the events in Georgia have attracted particular scrutiny, both by Willis’s grand jury and by the U.S. Department of Justice, whose prosecutors in Washington also recently subpoenaed the GOP electors from the state.

Among those details was an email from Robert Sinners, who served as the Trump campaign’s Election Day coordinator in Georgia, which was sent to the would-be electors on the day before the Dec. 14 meeting. In the email, Sinners urged them to act with “complete secrecy” and to refuse to speak to any members of the news media about what they were doing. If asked, they were to say they were attending a meeting with Jones and Beach, the two state senators.

“I must ask for your complete discretion in this process,” Sinners wrote at the time, according to the Washington Post, which first reported on the email. “Your duties are imperative to ensure the end result — a win in Georgia for President Trump — but will be hampered unless we have complete secrecy and discretion.”

He also instructed the electors to tell security guards at the Capitol that they had an appointment with one of two state senators. “Please, at no point should you mention anything to do with Presidential Electors or speak to the media,” Sinners wrote in bold.

George Chidi, an Atlanta-based independent journalist and political activist, told Yahoo News that he testified Wednesday for about an hour in front of the special grand jury, and was closely questioned by prosecutors about how he was tipped off about the secret meeting of electors at the Capitol that day. He said he attempted to report on it until he was evicted from the room. “They wanted to know how I knew to barge into that meeting,” he told Yahoo News.

Chidi said he was informed that the room had been reserved by somebody in the office of Speaker of the House David Ralston. (Ralston testified before the grand jury on Thursday, but declined comment, citing respect for “the privacy of grand jury proceedings,” according to the Atlanta Journal-Constitution.)

When he tracked down the room and entered, Chidi testified, he was told the assembled group was holding “an education meeting.” “A guy got up and walked me out the door,” he testified, adding that “they posted a guy out front” to keep others out. (An Atlanta Journal-Constitution reporter, Greg Bluestein, has written that he, too, was kept from the room.)

Prosecutors appear to be focusing on the secrecy of the meeting as evidence of consciousness of guilt on the part of the Trump electors. But defense lawyers will argue that Sinners's email and Chidi’s eviction from the room notwithstanding, the alternative electors did not attempt to keep the secret after their business was over — and that they had a valid reason to act as they did: to preserve the Trump campaign’s legal rights in the event that one of its legal challenges to Biden’s victory in Georgia prevailed. (The theory was that the state Legislature would not have time to formally name new electors before the Jan. 6 deadline, when Congress was due to certify the Electoral College vote.)

Shafer gave a number of interviews that day saying as much, although it's not clear whether he did so because he had learned that Chidi and Bluestein had discovered the meeting.

It is also not clear how the target letters to Jones and Shafer fit into Willis’s overall strategy in the investigation. She could indict the fake electors on a so-called false writing charge — alleging that they filed a fraudulent document naming themselves electors for the state.

Alternatively, or in addition, she could use a false writing charge as a “predicate act” as part of a much broader conspiracy indictment encompassing all the Trump campaign’s efforts to overturn the election results in the state, including Trump’s Jan. 2, 2021, phone call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger urging him to “find” enough votes to flip the electoral result there.

https://news.yahoo.com/exclusive-fulton-county-da-sends-target-letters-to-trump-allies-in-georgia-investigation-152517469.html

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« Reply #5511 on: July 15, 2022, 11:58:23 PM »
Cop confirms Hutchinson testimony about Trump’s effort to join Capitol riot: CNN



CNN reported on Thursday that a police officer in Donald Trump's Jan.6 motorcade confirmed testimony by Cassidy Hutchinson before the House Select Committee Investigating the Jan. 6 Attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Hutchinson testified about a discussion with Trump Deputy Chief of Staff Tony Ornato and Robert Engel, who ran Trump's Secret Service detail.

"I looked at Tony, and he had said, 'Did you f*****g hear what happened in the Beast?' I said, 'No, Tony, I just got back. What happened?' Tony proceeded to tell me that when the president got in the Beast, he was under the impression from Mr. [Mark] Meadows that the off-the-record movement to the Capitol was still possible and likely to happen, but that Bobby had more information," she testified.

"So once the president had gotten into the vehicle with Bobby, he thought they were going up to the Capitol, and when Bobby had relayed to him, we're not, we don't have the assets to do it, it's not secure, we're going back to the West Wing, the president had very strong, very angry response to that," Hutchinson said.

"Breaking news, a source telling CNN a Washington police officer who was in Trump's motorcade on Jan. 6 has corroborated details of the heated exchange Trump had with his Secret Service detail when he was told he could not go to the U.S. Capitol and he wanted to go," CNN's Erin Burnett reported.

"This development comes as a government watchdog reveals the Secret Service erased messages from the day of the insurrection — after investigators asked for them," Burnett added.

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« Reply #5512 on: July 16, 2022, 12:22:50 AM »
More on the leaked Bannon audio.

Leaked Audio: Before Election Day, Bannon Said Trump Planned to Falsely Claim Victory

“That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”



On the evening of October 31, 2020, Steve Bannon told a group of associates that President Donald Trump had a plan to declare victory on election night—even if he was losing. Trump knew that the slow counting of Democratic-leaning mail-in ballots meant the returns would show early leads for him in key states. His “strategy” was to use this fact to assert that he had won, while claiming that the inevitable shifts in vote totals toward Joe Biden must be the result of fraud, Bannon explained.

"What Trump’s gonna do is just declare victory. Right? He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner,” Bannon, laughing, told the group, according to audio of the meeting obtained by Mother Jones. “He’s just gonna say he’s a winner.”

“As it sits here today,” Bannon said later in the conversation, describing a scenario in which Trump held an early lead in key swing states, “at 10 or 11 o’clock Trump’s gonna walk in the Oval, tweet out, ‘I’m the winner. Game over. Suck on that.'”

Trump’s plan to falsely declare victory while tens of millions of votes were still being counted was public knowledge even before the election. Axios reported on the scheme at the time. Bannon himself discussed the idea on November 3—Election Day—on his War Room podcast. Weeks earlier, Bannon had interviewed a former Trump administration official who outlined how Trump would use allegations of fraud to dispute an electoral defeat and would seek to have Congress declare him the winner. Last month, the congressional committee investigating January 6 detailed how Rudy Giuliani convinced Trump to go ahead with a victory declaration after 2 a.m. on November 4, over the objections of campaign staff. “Frankly, we did win this election,” Trump insisted in that infamous news conference.

The nearly hourlong audio obtained by Mother Jones is new evidence that Trump’s late-night diatribe—which came a few hours later than Bannon had anticipated—followed a preexisting plan to lie to Americans about the election results in a bid to hold onto power. The new recording stands out for the striking candor and detail with which Bannon described a scheme to use lies to subvert democracy. Bannon also predicted that Trump’s false declaration of victory would lead to widespread political violence, along with “crazy” efforts by Trump to stay in office. Bannon and his associates laughed about those scenarios at various points in the recording.

In a comment sent Wednesday, a Bannon spokesperson argued that Bannon’s statements on the recording are not news. “Nothing on the recording wasn’t already said on War Room or on multiple other shows like The Circus on Showtime,” the spokesperson said. “Bannon gave that lecture multiple times from August to November to counter Mark Elias’ Election Integrity Project.” Elias is a prominent Democratic election lawyer. The spokesperson also said that the January 6 committee “should have the courage to have Mr. Bannon come and testify publicly about these events.”

After Election Day, Bannon became a prominent booster of Trump’s bogus election fraud claims. The Washington Post reported Monday that Bannon’s “vociferous support” for those lies helped convince Trump to grant him a last-minute pardon on unrelated fraud charges. Speaking to Mother Jones, Bannon’s attorney, Robert Costello questioned that reporting. He said that as far as he knew, “Trump never made any” statement linking the pardon to Bannon’s election rhetoric.

Bannon refused last year to cooperate with a January 6 committee subpoena. The Justice Department later charged him with two counts of contempt of Congress. This weekend, he claimed that he now wishes to testify before the committee. But federal prosecutors argued this about face was “irrelevant” to the charges that Bannon had already broken the law. A judge ruled Monday that the trial would go forward next week.

The pre-election audio comes from a meeting between Bannon and a half dozen supporters of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese mogul for whom Bannon has worked. Bannon helped Guo launch a series of pro-Trump Chinese-language news websites that have promoted an array of far-right misinformation, including a video streaming site called GTV. The meeting was intended to help GTV plan its election night coverage.

Though he did not attend, Guo arranged the confab, which was held in the Washington, DC, townhouse where Bannon tapes War Room, according to a person who was present. That source recorded the meeting and recently provided the audio to Mother Jones. The attendees included Dr. Li Meng Yan, a virologist who had made unsubstantiated claims that Covid was designed by China as a bioweapon—claims that Bannon had helped to propagate. Also there was Wang Dinggang, a GTV host who had helped to spread false claims about Hunter Biden.

Speaking to this group of mostly Chinese immigrants, Bannon explained US electoral processes—and Trump’s plans to exploit them—in some detail. He emphasized that in 2020, Republicans were more likely to vote in person, casting ballots that, in many states, would be counted first. Democrats disproportionately voted by mail. Their ballots would take days to tally in a number of states. That meant that when it came to public perceptions about who was winning, Democrats would “have a natural disadvantage,” Bannon said. “And Trump’s going to take advantage of it. That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”

“So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm,” Bannon continued. “You’re going to have antifa, crazy. The media, crazy. The courts are crazy. And Trump’s gonna be sitting there mocking, tweeting s**t out: ‘You lose. I’m the winner. I’m the king.'”

It’s not clear how much influence Bannon, who had previously been Trump’s top White House strategist before being ousted, really wielded over Trump at this time. But Bannon has suggested that he was a key architect of Trump’s efforts to overturn the election results and has reportedly asserted that he convinced Trump to make January 6 a moment of reckoning in that bid. Bannon was also among the Trump associates who gathered in a set of rooms and suites in the Willard Hotel on January 6 to advise on the president’s attempt to remain in power.

Bannon’s remarks to Guo’s supporters indicate that he was working with a group, led by Giuliani, that wanted Trump to take particularly aggressive steps to contest unfavorable election results. Other advisers have said they opposed these steps. Bannon said during the October 31 meeting that he was collaborating closely with Giuliani, who was preparing to oversee Trump’s planned legal efforts.

Bannon’s meeting with Guo’s associates occurred a few weeks after Bannon, working with Giuliani, had provided the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop to the New York Post. Bannon acknowledged in the recording that he had also helped supply Guo supporters with this material. As Mother Jones has reported, Guo then directed his backers to put sex videos and other salacious content from the laptop online. Bannon praised Guo’s effort during the meeting, saying it had helped slow Biden’s momentum. That left Biden with little prospect of a resounding election night victory that Trump wouldn’t easily be able to contest, Bannon added.

As  result, any chance for a “peaceful resolution of this is probably gone,” Bannon said. “Because the other three alternatives [are], either Biden’s up slightly and Trump says he stole it, right, and he’s not leaving. Or it’s undefined and we can’t figure out who’s leading, and Trump’s saying he’s stealing it, and he’s not leaving. Or, Trump’s leading, which is the one where they’re gonna burn the city down.”

Bannon expressed the belief that Trump actually winning would lead to violence by the left. But he also said that Trump falsely claiming he’d won—a strategy Bannon was cheering on—would probably cause violence too. And Bannon emphasized that election night would mark the start of a battle for power in which Trump would try to stop the votes of people who opposed him from being counted, while Democrats would try to use invalid ballots to defeat him. Democrats, Bannon claimed, “steal elections all the time.”

Election Day 2020 would not be like others, Bannon said. “This is a revolution,” he explained. “This election just triggers more fighting.”

Bannon also said during this meeting that once the voting was done, Trump would be unencumbered by electoral pressure. “Here’s the thing. After then, Trump never has to go to a voter again,” Bannon said. “He’s gonna fire [Christopher] Wray, the FBI director…He’s gonna say ‘F*** you. How about that?’ Because…he’s done his last election. Oh, he’s going to be off the chain—he’s gonna be crazy.”

Bannon also said he expected that Trump would quickly fire CIA Director Gina Haspel, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, and Dr. Anthony Fauci.

“If Trump is losing by 10 or 11 o’clock at night, it’s going to be even crazier. No, because he’s gonna sit right there and say, ‘They stole it. I’m directing the attorney general to shut down all ballot places in all 50 states,'” Bannon said. “He’s not going out easy. If Biden is winning, Trump is going to do some crazy s***.”

Listen to leaked audio:


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/07/leaked-audio-steve-bannon-trump-2020-election-declare-victory/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5513 on: July 16, 2022, 08:02:39 AM »
Gas ended the day at $4.48, 55 cents lower than it was on June 16th. 

Given that rising gas prices accounted for at least of our recent inflation this precipitous, ongoing drop is a dramatic and very positive economic event.

Some gas math:

1/20/21 - $2.40 a gallon
1/1/22   - $3.22
6/16/22 - $5.03
7/10/22 - $4.68, down 35 cents in last 3 weeks
7/19/22 - $4.48, down 20 cents from last week, down 53 cents in the past month, an 11% drop   
69% of the increase in gas prices came from Putin.

Refusal of Republicans to acknowledge benefits his war against the Ukraine and the West, betrays our national interest.




Due to this dramatic decline all of the increase of gas prices putting current prices outside of historic norms are due to Putin's aggression.

Instead of uniting to fight Putin's tax on Americans, the GOP is covering for him and campaigning with his allies. They are traitors.   

Prime Minister of Hungary to join Donald Trump at CPAC event in Dallas
https://www.audacy.com/krld/news/local/prime-minister-of-hungary-to-join-donald-trump-cpac-dallas

The blaming of Biden for higher gas prices is a lie, a conspiracy theory, and is aiding Putin's war effort for it deflects blame from him with US voters. Gas prices are high worldwide and even higher than the United States. Putin's war in Ukraine caused these gas prices to skyrocket worldwide.   

Continued alignment of GOP against US/Western interests should be getting far more attention, but the mainstream media has largely ignored it. So much for the "Liberal Media" that right wingers lie about. If it was so "liberal",  the GOP alignment of supporting Putin's interests would be shouted from the mountain tops.

Let's also not forget that the GOP continues to vote against funding Ukraine which is in our national security interests.

The GOP and Faux "News" hacks have been cozying up to Orban and want his fascist style government to replace our democracy.

Look at what the GOP has been doing as of late: banning books, targeting teachers & doctors, targeting LGBTQ people with hate laws, going after companies like Disney for not discriminating gays, taking away free speech in Florida, restricting voting rights, forcing women to give birth and controlling women's bodies which are all the hallmarks of fascism under a dictatorship.

The GOP is controlling what you can read, what can be taught, what you can say, what you do with your own body, and where you can travel. Yes, that's fascism as we no longer have the freedom to what we want. Fascist Republicans are controlling what we do in our lives.

Republicans are not allowing pregnant women in red states to go out of state to seek an abortion during a medical emergency under their "no exception abortion law". Yes that's fascism, as we no longer have the freedom to do what we want. We have to do what the state tells us to do, and that's what the GOP is enforcing with their radical laws which are the same laws Orban has in Hungary. That's what the GOP wants in ALL 50 states, they want us to be another Hungary. 
                     
Hungary election: PM Viktor Orban criticises Ukraine's Zelensky as he wins vote
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-60977917

GOP leaders are openly promoting on American soil Putin's most important European ally Viktor Orban, and one which evidence shows, who was involved in attacking the US.

Illiberal, unpatriotic, betrayal, compromised - we find to the words to describe what's happening here with these GOP traitors. 

NEW: During the US presidential election in 2016, Russian hackers used a Hungarian gov't computer to disguise international data traffic needed for attacks against the US. Then it all happened again in 2020.

https://twitter.com/panyiszabolcs/status/1547871241813389319

Most of the inflation America is currently experiencing is coming from Putin's war on Ukraine. 

If you are mad about high gas prices and inflation you should be mad at Putin and his enablers in the U.S. aka the GOP.

https://twitter.com/michael_hendrix/status/1547924293991817216
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« Reply #5514 on: July 16, 2022, 08:55:52 AM »
More on the leaked Bannon audio.

Leaked Audio: Before Election Day, Bannon Said Trump Planned to Falsely Claim Victory

“That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”



On the evening of October 31, 2020, Steve Bannon told a group of associates that President Donald Trump had a plan to declare victory on election night—even if he was losing. Trump knew that the slow counting of Democratic-leaning mail-in ballots meant the returns would show early leads for him in key states. His “strategy” was to use this fact to assert that he had won, while claiming that the inevitable shifts in vote totals toward Joe Biden must be the result of fraud, Bannon explained.

"What Trump’s gonna do is just declare victory. Right? He’s gonna declare victory. But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner,” Bannon, laughing, told the group, according to audio of the meeting obtained by Mother Jones. “He’s just gonna say he’s a winner.”

“As it sits here today,” Bannon said later in the conversation, describing a scenario in which Trump held an early lead in key swing states, “at 10 or 11 o’clock Trump’s gonna walk in the Oval, tweet out, ‘I’m the winner. Game over. Suck on that.'”

Trump’s plan to falsely declare victory while tens of millions of votes were still being counted was public knowledge even before the election. Axios reported on the scheme at the time. Bannon himself discussed the idea on November 3—Election Day—on his War Room podcast. Weeks earlier, Bannon had interviewed a former Trump administration official who outlined how Trump would use allegations of fraud to dispute an electoral defeat and would seek to have Congress declare him the winner. Last month, the congressional committee investigating January 6 detailed how Rudy Giuliani convinced Trump to go ahead with a victory declaration after 2 a.m. on November 4, over the objections of campaign staff. “Frankly, we did win this election,” Trump insisted in that infamous news conference.

The nearly hourlong audio obtained by Mother Jones is new evidence that Trump’s late-night diatribe—which came a few hours later than Bannon had anticipated—followed a preexisting plan to lie to Americans about the election results in a bid to hold onto power. The new recording stands out for the striking candor and detail with which Bannon described a scheme to use lies to subvert democracy. Bannon also predicted that Trump’s false declaration of victory would lead to widespread political violence, along with “crazy” efforts by Trump to stay in office. Bannon and his associates laughed about those scenarios at various points in the recording.

In a comment sent Wednesday, a Bannon spokesperson argued that Bannon’s statements on the recording are not news. “Nothing on the recording wasn’t already said on War Room or on multiple other shows like The Circus on Showtime,” the spokesperson said. “Bannon gave that lecture multiple times from August to November to counter Mark Elias’ Election Integrity Project.” Elias is a prominent Democratic election lawyer. The spokesperson also said that the January 6 committee “should have the courage to have Mr. Bannon come and testify publicly about these events.”

After Election Day, Bannon became a prominent booster of Trump’s bogus election fraud claims. The Washington Post reported Monday that Bannon’s “vociferous support” for those lies helped convince Trump to grant him a last-minute pardon on unrelated fraud charges. Speaking to Mother Jones, Bannon’s attorney, Robert Costello questioned that reporting. He said that as far as he knew, “Trump never made any” statement linking the pardon to Bannon’s election rhetoric.

Bannon refused last year to cooperate with a January 6 committee subpoena. The Justice Department later charged him with two counts of contempt of Congress. This weekend, he claimed that he now wishes to testify before the committee. But federal prosecutors argued this about face was “irrelevant” to the charges that Bannon had already broken the law. A judge ruled Monday that the trial would go forward next week.

The pre-election audio comes from a meeting between Bannon and a half dozen supporters of Guo Wengui, an exiled Chinese mogul for whom Bannon has worked. Bannon helped Guo launch a series of pro-Trump Chinese-language news websites that have promoted an array of far-right misinformation, including a video streaming site called GTV. The meeting was intended to help GTV plan its election night coverage.

Though he did not attend, Guo arranged the confab, which was held in the Washington, DC, townhouse where Bannon tapes War Room, according to a person who was present. That source recorded the meeting and recently provided the audio to Mother Jones. The attendees included Dr. Li Meng Yan, a virologist who had made unsubstantiated claims that Covid was designed by China as a bioweapon—claims that Bannon had helped to propagate. Also there was Wang Dinggang, a GTV host who had helped to spread false claims about Hunter Biden.

Speaking to this group of mostly Chinese immigrants, Bannon explained US electoral processes—and Trump’s plans to exploit them—in some detail. He emphasized that in 2020, Republicans were more likely to vote in person, casting ballots that, in many states, would be counted first. Democrats disproportionately voted by mail. Their ballots would take days to tally in a number of states. That meant that when it came to public perceptions about who was winning, Democrats would “have a natural disadvantage,” Bannon said. “And Trump’s going to take advantage of it. That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”

“So when you wake up Wednesday morning, it’s going to be a firestorm,” Bannon continued. “You’re going to have antifa, crazy. The media, crazy. The courts are crazy. And Trump’s gonna be sitting there mocking, tweeting s**t out: ‘You lose. I’m the winner. I’m the king.'”

It’s not clear how much influence Bannon, who had previously been Trump’s top White House strategist before being ousted, really wielded over Trump at this time. But Bannon has suggested that he was a key architect of Trump’s efforts to overturn the election results and has reportedly asserted that he convinced Trump to make January 6 a moment of reckoning in that bid. Bannon was also among the Trump associates who gathered in a set of rooms and suites in the Willard Hotel on January 6 to advise on the president’s attempt to remain in power.

Bannon’s remarks to Guo’s supporters indicate that he was working with a group, led by Giuliani, that wanted Trump to take particularly aggressive steps to contest unfavorable election results. Other advisers have said they opposed these steps. Bannon said during the October 31 meeting that he was collaborating closely with Giuliani, who was preparing to oversee Trump’s planned legal efforts.

Bannon’s meeting with Guo’s associates occurred a few weeks after Bannon, working with Giuliani, had provided the contents of Hunter Biden’s laptop to the New York Post. Bannon acknowledged in the recording that he had also helped supply Guo supporters with this material. As Mother Jones has reported, Guo then directed his backers to put sex videos and other salacious content from the laptop online. Bannon praised Guo’s effort during the meeting, saying it had helped slow Biden’s momentum. That left Biden with little prospect of a resounding election night victory that Trump wouldn’t easily be able to contest, Bannon added.

As  result, any chance for a “peaceful resolution of this is probably gone,” Bannon said. “Because the other three alternatives [are], either Biden’s up slightly and Trump says he stole it, right, and he’s not leaving. Or it’s undefined and we can’t figure out who’s leading, and Trump’s saying he’s stealing it, and he’s not leaving. Or, Trump’s leading, which is the one where they’re gonna burn the city down.”

Bannon expressed the belief that Trump actually winning would lead to violence by the left. But he also said that Trump falsely claiming he’d won—a strategy Bannon was cheering on—would probably cause violence too. And Bannon emphasized that election night would mark the start of a battle for power in which Trump would try to stop the votes of people who opposed him from being counted, while Democrats would try to use invalid ballots to defeat him. Democrats, Bannon claimed, “steal elections all the time.”

Election Day 2020 would not be like others, Bannon said. “This is a revolution,” he explained. “This election just triggers more fighting.”

Bannon also said during this meeting that once the voting was done, Trump would be unencumbered by electoral pressure. “Here’s the thing. After then, Trump never has to go to a voter again,” Bannon said. “He’s gonna fire [Christopher] Wray, the FBI director…He’s gonna say ‘F*** you. How about that?’ Because…he’s done his last election. Oh, he’s going to be off the chain—he’s gonna be crazy.”

Bannon also said he expected that Trump would quickly fire CIA Director Gina Haspel, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Health and Human Services Secretary Alex Azar, and Dr. Anthony Fauci.

“If Trump is losing by 10 or 11 o’clock at night, it’s going to be even crazier. No, because he’s gonna sit right there and say, ‘They stole it. I’m directing the attorney general to shut down all ballot places in all 50 states,'” Bannon said. “He’s not going out easy. If Biden is winning, Trump is going to do some crazy s***.”

Listen to leaked audio:


https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2022/07/leaked-audio-steve-bannon-trump-2020-election-declare-victory/

So, this audio confirms what we all knew about how Criminal Donald and his henchmen were going to steal the election from us. We heard from reporting this is what they were going to do, but this audio is clear documented evidence coming from Bannon himself describing in detail their treasonous coup attempt.   

It was obvious Criminal Donald was going to lose badly which is why all these insane schemes were concocted even BEFORE Election Day.

Imagine coming out on tv to declare he won even before all the votes were counted. Did this idiot think people would actually go along with that?

After their schemes failed miserably, they took it a step further trying to get fake electors to take over the real electors to vote for Criminal Donald in the states he lost. When that didn't work, he cslled up the Georgia Secretary of State wanting him to find a specific number of votes to help him win the state. When that failed, as a last resort, he incited an insurrection to trying to stop Biden's vote certification.

All of this proves Criminal Donald knew he lost and was looking for any way to stay in power including inciting his MAGA mob to riot and take over our U.S. Capitol.

Let's not forget that the Republican Party and the right wing media were all in cahoots together trying to keep an illegitimate fraud illegally in power all because they didn't want to lose when they lost badly. They spread his election lies, refused to certify Biden's election victory, incited the MAGA base, and they now defend the rioters who took over our Capitol. All of them knew they were lying, but went through with it anyway because they were thirsty for power.   

These are the same criminals who falsely attack and lie about Biden each day and the ones who want to take over our government so they can make laws based on their QAnon conspiracy theories and radical evangelical religion. This is already happening in red states right now, and they want to take over our government to make these insane laws federal which we all would be forced to live under.

What this audio proves is premeditated intent to commit fraud against the United States in an act of treason. All of these criminals responsible need to rot in prison.                             

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #5515 on: July 16, 2022, 12:39:48 PM »
For 4 years, Donnie told us that he would get Mexico to pay for a wall. He was an absolute failure because Mexico didn't fork over one dime as U.S. tax payers got stuck with the bill instead.

So, the "great negotiator" couldn't get Mexico to pay for border security.

Well, just the other day, President Biden met with Mexican President Andrés Manuel López and got him to pay $1.5 Billion for border security. President Biden was easily able to get done what Criminal Donald could never do. The right wing media and right wing politicians are silent as a mouse, as President Biden achieved a huge accomplishment by getting Mexico to pay for their immigration problem. Remember, it was Criminal Donald who made a mess at the border for Biden to deal with but Biden got the deal done. Results matter and Biden made the deal.

Criminal Donald also promised us "new big beautiful infrastructure" he claimed would pass each week. That never happened either. President Biden passed the largest Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill in American history in his first few months in office and projects have already started all over the country. Republican are all talk and no action. Democrats are getting the results that Americans ask for.

President Biden promised he would combat illegal immigration and bring us new infrastructure. Biden also promised he could work across the aisle with Republicans to get important legislation passed. And he did more than once. He accomplished both Infrastructure and Border Security in less than a year. That's what REAL leadership brings. Donnie failed miserably each time and Biden came shining through with the results. We better not hear anymore right wing conspiracy theories from Trump supporters about a phony "Biden Border Crisis" when it was Criminal Donald who handed Biden the crisis. It was President Biden who got this deal done to make Mexico pay for their immigration problem. That's another Biden win and another Trump disaster taken care of. 

Mexico agrees to provide $1.5 billion to help U.S. manage migrants on southern border
The agreement was discussed Tuesday when Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador met with President Joe Biden at the White House.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/mexico-agrees-provide-15-billion-help-us-manage-migrants-southern-bord-rcna37889

Yes, There’s a Crisis on the Border. And It’s Trump’s Fault.
April 05, 2019
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/04/05/border-crisis-donald-trump-226573/