Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4564 on: January 29, 2022, 11:48:45 PM »
The American public overwhelmingly agrees with Tucker's position on the Ukraine.  That war is of no importance to the US.  Americans don't want to be involved in another conflicted pushed on them by the establishment politicians to benefit the military contractors.  Let the weak socialist countries in Europe fight those battles.  We already spend trillions to defend Europe while they contribute nothing.  Only Trump stood up to the European countries who haven't lived up to even their meager contributions to NATO.  Let them learn to speak Russian if they don't want to defend themselves.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4565 on: January 30, 2022, 12:02:51 AM »
Former federal prosecutor details what the fake electors are facing in court



President Donald Trump's desperation to overturn the 2020 election involved a plot with people pretending to be electors when they were nothing of the sort.

Lawyers involved with Trump's campaign worked with unelected Republican electors to file paperwork claiming that they had been elected. Because those documents were officially filed with the federal government, they could be on the hook for fraud.

Speaking to MSNBC, former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner explained that their excuse that they were just "following orders" won't hold up.

"That's not a lawful defense, and that's the way I interpret that statement," he explained. "As Attorney General [Hector] Balderas just said, the electors have a legal obligation to certify the results accurately. The results of the popular vote, and the first duly authorized slate of electors from all 50 states did that. Then you have something that people sometimes refer to as an 'alternate' slate of electors, but let's call them what they are. It's a fraudulent slate of electors, because they did not certify the popular vote."

He noted that there was another goal of the Trump campaign to submit the paperwork, but once they did, they put the fake electors in "real hot water."

"It appears they committed state crimes and federal crimes, and Michigan Attorney General Dana Nessel said, and I quote, 'This is a crime.' And both Attorney General Nessel and Attorney General Balderas have referred these matters for criminal investigation to the Department of Justice," Kirschner continued. "But I'll say — because these also very likely violate state laws in Michigan, in New Mexico and elsewhere, there's nothing preventing the state authorities from criminally investigating, and if the evidence supports it, indicting these people simultaneously with the federal investigation going on — because these are different sovereigns, different jurisdictions, there are no double jeopardy concerns, and hopefully, if DOJ isn't moving out quickly enough, the states will begin to move out themselves."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4566 on: January 30, 2022, 12:06:16 AM »
'Decks cleared' for the criminal indictment of Mark Meadows: former federal prosecutor



According to former federal prosecutor Glenn Kirschner, there is nothing besides political factors that are keeping former Donald Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows from being indicted for refusing to speak with the House committee investigating the Jan 6th insurrection.

Referring to remarks made by a former Florida prosecutor during an appearance on MSNBC's "Morning Joe" on Friday morning, Kirschner said a recent ruling by the Supreme Court "clears the deck" for charges against the former Trump insider.

Noting it has been 45 days since Meadows balked at appearing by claiming executive privilege, the former prosecutor said the assertion no longer holds water and that it is apparent the Department of Justice is taking a deeper look since the court's ruling.

"We now know that the Department of Justice is factoring in the Supreme Court's rejection of Donald Trump's executive privilege claim," Kirschner explained. "And that clears the decks for an indictment of Mark Meadows."

"Because if Donald Trump doesn't have an executive privilege claim, then Mark Meadows can't invoke Trump's by extension," he continued. "I was kind of hoping today [Friday] would be the day -- the day that Mark Meadows was indicted. Why? Because today is day 45. Forty-five days since Congress referred Mark Meadows for criminal prosecution."

"It looks like we'll have to wait," he continued. "At least another couple of days because nobody get indicted on the weekend, so Monday will be day 48. And if we have to wait another couple of days, or couple of weeks, so be it as long as that indictment comes."

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Offline Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4567 on: January 30, 2022, 04:34:54 PM »
Somewhere the Stasi are looking down with pride on Rick's boundless enthusiasm to lock up all his political opponents.  Is that how democracy works?   At the very least, it demonstrates a profound fear of allowing the American public to elect whomever they see fit to office.  I wonder why Rick is so fearful of the voters?  Maybe we will find out soon.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4568 on: January 30, 2022, 11:38:48 PM »
Somewhere the Stasi are looking down with pride on Rick's boundless enthusiasm to lock up all his political opponents.  Is that how democracy works?   At the very least, it demonstrates a profound fear of allowing the American public to elect whomever they see fit to office.  I wonder why Rick is so fearful of the voters?  Maybe we will find out soon.

Criminal Donald and his right wing traitors don't believe in democracy. They tried to end democracy via a coup and are still trying to end it every single day.   

Don't you believe in law and order, Richard?

Sorry, nobody is above the law.

Criminal Donald is involved in many tax and financial crimes in New York. That's illegal. He also incited an insurrection and attempted to steal an election via a coup. That's sedition and our Constitution clearly states that's illegal.

Funny how Richard supported Criminal Donald's and his cult chanting to lock up Hillary Clinton based on a conspiracy theory and now he has a problem with it when Criminal Donald was caught committing several crimes against the United States.   

The voters already had their say and defeated Criminal Donald in a blowout election. He along with his right wing  thugs tried to steal an election victory from the majority of Americans. These same Americans will not be voting for a Republican Cult who attempted to keep a deranged lunatic in power by fraud and attempted coup.

Why is Richard so fearful of New York, Georgia, the 1/6 House committee, and the DOJ investigating Criminal Donald for his crimes?     

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4569 on: January 30, 2022, 11:40:48 PM »
You can add another crime for witness tampering. Donnie is desperate and knows he is going down.

Trump’s suggestion of pardons could affect Capitol riot plea negotiations: report
https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-2656513854/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4570 on: January 31, 2022, 01:24:50 PM »
So, this thug told his deranged cult to hold protests when he's arrested for his crimes, calling for more violence. And as a private citizen, this thug is saying he will give pardons in order to keep MAGA rioters from talking to authorities about his coup attempt. Last night he even confessed in a written statement to his crimes of overturning an election he lost. Time to lock this criminal up.

'This is incredibly dangerous': CNN panel stunned by Trump's new call for protests if he's prosecuted
https://www.rawstory.com/trump-is-dangerous-2656511590/