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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4459 on: December 18, 2021, 11:12:01 PM »
Criminal Donald and his fellow right wingers were lying about voter fraud and here the fraud was coming from his own supporters in Florida.

Florida investigators turn up more evidence of possible voter fraud  after bust at The Villages

On the heels of a report that investigators found evidence that three voters living at Florida retirement community The Villages allegedly committed voter fraud in the 2020 election, the Sun-Sentinel is now reporting that may just be the tip of the iceberg as more residents may have voted multiple times.

According to the new report, the election investigators in Lake County has have turned up six possible cases that have been referred to "state prosecutors for further investigation, and Osceola County flagged seven problematic votes."

On Tuesday, Click Orlando reported that three people who either live at The Villages or close by were arrested for fraudulently casting multiple ballots in 2020.

After the arrest of Jay Ketcik, 63, Joan Halstead, 71, and John Rider, 61, investigators turned their attention to so-called "snow-birds" who maintain two homes -- one in sunny Florida for the winter months.

The Sun-Sentinel reports, "... election officials say they want to send a message to anyone thinking of voting more than once in an election. Florida is home to a large number of seasonal residents with multiple addresses who could try to mail in a ballot in one state and vote in person in another."

In a statement, Wesley Wilcox, president of the Florida Supervisors of Elections’ association served notice by stating, "You commit fraud in the state of Florida, and we will do everything possible to catch and charge you. One of the benefits of charging these people is it’s a deterrent. It may take me a year to catch you, but I will catch you.”

Although it is not known who was the recipient of their illegal votes, the Sun-Sentinel's Skyler Swisher wrote, "The Villages is a bastion of Trump support with 67% of Sumter County voters favoring him in the 2020 election."

Swisher adds, "It’s not illegal to be registered to vote in multiple places, but casting more than one ballot in a federal election can land a person in serious legal trouble. In Florida, it’s a felony punishable by up to five years in prison and a $5,000 fine."

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https://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/politics/os-ne-voting-twice-crackdown-20211217-kzh3264sprefrfrew5xjeiwgtu-story.html

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4460 on: December 18, 2021, 11:18:38 PM »
Lock him up! And the entire Trump Crime Family. 

Trump is about to be indicted for racketeering in New York: David Cay Johnston



Former president Donald Trump will soon be indicted for criminal racketeering under New York state law, according to Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative journalist David Cay Johnston.

Johnston said the charges will stem from Manhattan District Attorney Cy Vance's ongoing investigation into whether Trump's company misled lenders or tax authorities about the value of its properties.

"I anticipate they're going to bring a racketeering charge against Trump," Johnston said. "Certainly Trump's team, when he's indicted, and I'm certain he will be indicted, is going to try to lay the blame on everybody else, and so what the prosecutors want to show that is if (Trump Organization Chief Financial Officer) Allen Weisselberg phonied up documents, it was at the direction of Donald Trump."

MSNBC host Yasmin Vossoughian then pressed Johnston to confirm that he is certain about an impending indictment.

"Oh, yeah," Johnston responded. "They would not have done all of this and know how much they know ... if they weren't going to to do this. Yeah, they will indict him. Exactly when? I don't know. I don't expect it will be on a straight tax charge. I think there will be a tax charge, but the key charge will be racketeering."

He added that the timing of the indictment will depend on how long it takes prosecutors to go through five million pages of documents that were handed over by the Trump Organization.

"Once he's indicted, Trump will have to surrender himself to be booked. I'm sure he will be released on his own recognizance, and then we will see a campaign of trying to delay trial," Johnston said. "You will see Donald say, 'This is corrupt, the prosecutors are corrupt, the police are corrupt, the auditors are corrupt,' because that's what Roy Cohn taught him when he was a young man — accuse law enforcement, and then delay, delay, delay."


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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4461 on: December 19, 2021, 10:16:49 AM »
Another empty crowd for Donnie. That's back to back shows. Even his own base is sick of him. :D   

Trump draws sparse crowd in Texas as 'History Tour' event is delayed by storms



The Houston installment of Donald Trump's "History Tour" with Bill O'Reilly was delayed by near two hours on Saturday due to stormy weather that apparently delayed the former president's flight.

The event was scheduled to start at 3 p.m. Central time, but the Houston Chronicle reports that Trump didn't take the stage at the Toyota Center until shortly before 5.

"Top sections were blocked off, and there were still plenty of seats available at the event's scheduled start time," the Chronicle reported. "Last weekend the duo had two stops in Florida ... Media reports in Florida reported the tour had been beset by lower than expected ticket sales."

The Orlando Sentinel reported this week that, according to city records, the Amway Center was only about half full for last Sunday's event. The tour concludes in Dallas on Sunday.

At about 4:15 p.m. Central time Saturday, Trump spokeswoman Liz Harrington wrote on Twitter, "Airport opened, landing now. We’ll be right there, Houston. Will do extra special performance!"

The Chronicle's Jeremy Wallace posted a video from inside the Toyota Center at 3:22 p.m. Central time. The video showed that even the lower deck of the stadium was roughly half empty.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #4462 on: December 20, 2021, 01:47:28 AM »
'This is really crazy stuff': Michael Cohen eviscerates Trump for trying to change the story on Jan. 6



President Donald Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen spoke to MSNBC on Sunday to trash comments made by the ex-leader during a small rally over the weekend in Houston, Texas.

Trump explained that if he had it to do over again, he would have deployed the National Guard to do more on Jan. 6 as his supporters went after the U.S. Capitol.

There's just one problem with that, Cohen said. Trump lies about everything.

"So, you may remember when I testified before the House Oversight Committee and Jim Jordan and Mark dopey Meadows started on this liar-liar pants on fire and all the other nonsense in order to denigrate me, thinking it was going to throw me off track, which of course it didn't, and I stopped the entire proceeding, and I said to them, I know what you're doing," Cohen recalled. "I know the play in the playbook that you're trying to run because I created that playbook. And it didn't work out well for me, and it's not going to work out well for you."

He explained that it seems none of them heeded his warnings and now they're all in trouble.

"Mark Meadows is in some real serious trouble right now," he said. "And I think so is Jim Jordan and so is Donald Trump Jr. and so is Eric Trump and Lara Trump and a handful of other councilmembers that were actually communicating with some of these insurrection insurrectionists on the outside while they were on the inside. This is crazy stuff, folks."

He went on to say that Trump is the one that can't stop lying.

You start to think about, this is our U.S. Capitol, this is the people's house," he said. "And there was an insurrection. We haven't had this in what, 150 years? And now, of course, under Donald Trump, who is going to deny the fact that this actually even happened. There was 'so much love in the air.' Maybe there was love among the insurrectionists but certainly for the police, certainly not if they got their hands on Mike Pence, certainly not if they got their hands on Nancy Pelosi and other members of Congress who were doing their duty and certifying the electoral votes."

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« Reply #4463 on: December 20, 2021, 05:20:56 AM »
Former FBI official thinks Trump knows 'something is coming' — while the DOJ is investigating GOP officials



Former FBI official Frank Figliuzzi explained on Sunday that a recent statement by President Donald Trump led him to believe that the ex-Republican leader knows that something is about to happen in his ongoing legal problems.

Trump released a statement Saturday attacking attorneys general, law enforcement, and others he said are out of control. It tipped off Figliuzzi that something was going on.

"I don't think the former president hides his emotions very well at all," said Figliuzzi, responding to a statement from Trump. "And typically, historically, for him, when he sends out something like this it's indicative that he's learned something he didn't know. His targeting of democratic DA's/District Attorneys, something is stirring. Word has gotten to him that something is happening, about to happen to him. He doesn't like where the investigation is going. He's lashing out. It's the possibility that either the state of new york or manhattan district attorney's office and/or the DOJ is getting closer to him. Some word has gotten back to him that triggered that message."

He went on to say that he doesn't believe that the Justice Department and the House Select Committee on Jan. 6 aren't operating in a vacuum. They're likely sharing information as it comes up.

"For those all over social media who are understandably frustrated with timing and wonder if DOJ and Merrick Garland and the FBI are doing absolutely nothing. I'm an evidence guy. I see glimpses that not only is DOJ not doing nothing, but rather that they understand the role of the select committee."

He explained that the Justice Department and the White House waived executive privilege and people at a high level are cooperating with the committees and law enforcement. He specifically named Branden Straka, who stopped his prosecution because he began cooperating with the DOJ.

"He spoke at the rally. He's been arrested, and he's cooperating, enough cooperation for DOJ to stop what they're doing with Straka," said Figliuzzi. "Other Oath Keepers are cooperating. We know a high-ranking Oath Keeper was asked by FBI agents, 'were you in contact with members of Congress or their staff.' We've heard Chairman Bennie Thompson (D-MS) tell reporters in the last two weeks who authored the texts being released by the committee. He said House members and staffers, the same language the FBI is using when they question Oath Keepers. I think things are happening."

He also said that he believes Attorney General Merrick Garland understands domestic terrorism and that because of his work on the Oklahoma City bombing, he knows what he's doing.

Figliuzzi closed by saying that he thinks it might already be that the Justice Department is investigating members of Congress.

"And again, I refer back to the little clues we're getting," he explained. "The fact that an FBI agent asked a senior Oath Keeper if he's been in contact with Congress or staffers regarding the Jan. 6 breach. FBI agents don't just come up with questions off the top of their heads in a nationwide investigation. The questions are drafted by intelligence analysts. There are collection requirements. They're put out in templates to all agents. I think the FBI is looking at the involvement of Congress members and staff and I think that's already happening."

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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« Reply #4465 on: December 20, 2021, 01:48:05 PM »
Why Trump appears deeply unnerved as Capitol attack investigation closes in
Flurry of recent revelations raises the specter that the committee is swiftly heading towards an incriminating conclusion



Donald Trump is increasingly agitated by the House select committee investigating the Capitol attack, according to sources familiar with the matter, and appears anxious he might be implicated in the sprawling inquiry into the insurrection even as he protests his innocence.

The former president in recent weeks has complained more about the investigation, demanding why his former White House chief of staff, Mark Meadows, shared so much material about 6 January with the select committee, and why dozens of other aides have also cooperated.

Trump has also been perturbed by aides invoking the Fifth Amendment in depositions - it makes them look weak and complicit in a crime, he has told associates - and considers them foolish for not following the lead of his former strategist Steve Bannon in simply ignoring the subpoenas.

When Trump sees new developments in the Capitol attack investigation on television, he has started swearing about the negative coverage and bemoaned that the House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, was too incompetent to put Republicans on the committee to defend him.

The former president’s anger largely mirrors the kind of expletives he once directed at the Russia inquiry and the special counsel investigation when he occupied the White House. But the rapidly accelerating investigation into whether Trump and top aides unlawfully conspired to stop the certification of Joe Biden’s victory at the 6 January joint session appears to be unnerving him deeply.

The portrait that emerges from interviews with multiple sources close to Trump, including current and former aides, suggest a former president unmoored and backed into a corner by the rapid escalation in intensity of the committee’s investigation.

A spokesperson for Trump did not respond to requests for comment.

But as Trump struggles to shield himself from the select committee, with public hearings next year and the justice department said to be tracking the investigation, the path ahead is only likely to be more treacherous.

The former president is especially attuned to his potential for legal exposure, even as he maintains he did nothing wrong in conferring about ways to overturn the 2020 election and encouraging supporters to march on the Capitol. He has expressed alarm to associates about repeated defeats in court as he seeks to stop the select committee obtaining some of the most sensitive of White House documents about 6 January from the National Archives, on grounds of executive privilege.

The reality is that with each passing day, the committee seems to be gathering new evidence about Trump’s culpability around the Capitol attack that might culminate with recommendations for new election laws – but also for prosecutions.

"I think that the justice department will keep a keen eye on what evidence the committee has accumulated, as well as looking out for witnesses for a potential case,” said Ryan Goodman, a former special counsel at the Department of Defense now a law professor at New York University.

“One of the outcomes of the committee’s work and the public hearings will be to demonstrate individuals who might be wanting to come forward as witnesses and that’s got to be very important to justice department prosecutors,” Goodman said.

House investigators are expected to soon surpass more than 300 interviews with Trump administration officials and Trump political operatives as part of a process that has yielded 30,000 documents and 250 tips via the select committee’s tip line.

The flurry of recent revelations – such as the disclosure of Meadows’s connection to a powerpoint outlining how Trump could stage a coup, as first reported by the Guardian – raises the specter that the select committee is swiftly heading towards an incriminating conclusion.

Trump’s associates insist they are not worried, at least for the moment, since the select committee has yet to obtain materials covered by executive privilege either through Meadows or the National Archives that could ensnare Trump personally.

The former president’s defenders are correct in that respect – the committee does not have messages that show Trump directing an attack on the Capitol, one source said – and Trump has vowed to appeal the National Archives case to the supreme court.

But no one outside the select committee, which is quietly making progress from a glass office on Capitol Hill with boarded-up windows and electronically secured doors, knows exactly what it has uncovered and whether the inquiry ends with a criminal referral.

The material Meadows turned over alone depicts an alarming strategy to stop Biden’s certification on 6 January, involving nearly the entire federal government and lieutenants operating from the Willard hotel in Washington.

One member on the select committee described the events around 6 January as showing a coalescence of multiple strategies: “There was a DoJ strategy, a state legislative strategy, a state election official strategy, the vice-president strategy. And there was the insurrection strategy.”

The text messages Meadows received on his personal phone implicate Trump’s eldest son, Don Jr, and Republican members of Congress. Texts Meadows turned over to the committee might also be used by an enterprising prosecutor as evidence of criminal obstruction to stop a congressional proceeding if the White House knew election fraud claims to be lies but still used them to stop Biden’s certification.

While Meadows never testified about the communications, a cadre of top Trump officials, from former acting national security adviser Keith Kellogg to Pence’s former chief of staff Marc Short, have moved to cooperate with House investigators.

The trouble for Trump – and part of the source of his frustration, the sources said – is his inability, out of office, to wield the far-reaching power of the executive branch to affect the course of the inquiry.

The limited success of strategies he hoped would stymie the committee – ordering aides to defy subpoenas or launching legal challenges to slow-walk the release White House records – has been jarring for Trump.

“I think what he’s finding is that as the ex-president, he has a lot less authority than he did as president. But his playbook doesn’t work if he’s not president,” said Daniel Goldman, former lead counsel in the first House impeachment inquiry into Trump.

In a reflection of dwindling legal avenues available to undercut the investigation, Trump has returned to launching attacks-by-emailed-statement on the select committee, stewing over his predicament and what he considers an investigation designed only to hurt him politically.

“The Unselect Committee itself is Rigged, stacked with Never Trumpers, Republican enemies, and two disgraced RINOs, Cheney and Kinzinger, who couldn’t get elected ‘dog catcher’ in their districts,” Trump vented last month.

In private, Trump is said to have reserved the brunt of his scorn for Meadows, furious with his former White House chief of staff for sharing sensitive communications on top of all the unflattering details about Trump included in his book this month.

Trump’s associates, however, have focused more on questioning the legitimacy of the select committee and its composition, arguing the fact that the House Speaker, Nancy Pelosi, appointed both Republican members reduces the investigation to a partisan political endeavor.

They also argue that none of the revelations to date – like the Guardian’s reporting on Trump’s call to the Willard hotel, during which he pressed operatives to stop Biden’s certification from taking place entirely – amounts to criminal wrongdoing.

But in the meantime, Trump is left with little choice but to wait for the committee’s report.

“The justice department seems to be more reactive than proactive,” Goodman said. “They might be waiting for the committee to wrap up its work to make criminal referrals.”

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/dec/20/capitol-attack-investigation-closes-in-trump

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
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