Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Rick Plant

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« Reply #3744 on: February 21, 2021, 01:10:07 AM »
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Sounds like you might support monarchy......King Donald I?

Right wingers like him bow down to Criminal Donald and want him as their authoritarian dictator because they are unable to think for themselves and these people hate everything about America. They want an all white society which is why they spout the slogans "Make America Great Again" and "America First" which were both used by the Ku Klux Klan in the 1920's. Their slogans hearken back to the pre civil war days when they claim "America was great". It's all based on racism and white power. That's why Trump is loved by white supremacists and neo nazi hate groups. Interestingly enough, Criminal Donald's father Fred was arrested at a Klan rally in the 1920's.         

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Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3745 on: February 21, 2021, 07:53:22 AM »
Hey John,

Hope all you guys (and gals) in the US are safe and well.

Variants vs vaccines is a sort of battle but the various amino acid substitutions and deletions that enhance binding are being closely tracked since the first major one, the UK variant first appeared. I think the South African and Brazilian variants are now thought to be the most contagious. Simply put they increase the chance of spread to more people with less particles. You lower the effective infective dose. That said the current vaccines in use, Pfizer, Moderna and Oxford are still effective although somewhat diminished in their ability to prevent infection. The key is if you do get infected the symptoms are mild. No need for hospitalisation. I believe the vaccine technology developed will allow for "tweaks" to take care of variants down the track before they get out of hand.

For the US the vaccine rollout looks to be reasonably good. Almost 2 million doses per day now I believe. Remember it takes almost three weeks for the vaccine to promote a protective response so there will be a lag. Also the second dose provides best protection. As the most at risk are first in line along with health workers et al I believe you will see a dramatic downturn in deaths and hospitalisations by summer. The only spanner would be the variants taking off. The case numbers have fallen lately which suggests they haven’t taken hold "yet". You might see a bounce in numbers again if they do.

As for comparison of administrations, as an observer I think the obvious difference is consistency of approach. It seems steady with less bluster and just getting on with the job rather than holding daily press conferences that were thinly disguised election promotions. Perhaps the best description is the depoliticising of a public health crisis, as much as we could expect to happen in a political environment.

I think there is great optimism for a much better 2021.
Thanks.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3746 on: February 21, 2021, 03:44:19 PM »
Sounds like you might support monarchy......King Donald I?

No, I support democracy.  Which we do not currently have.  Do you have $800 billion to run for senate in Georgia?  If not, then you are out of luck.  Who has $800 billion?  The paymasters who decide who gets elected.  Do you think Old Joe or any establishment politician can exercise independent judgment on issues when they take billions of dollars to get elected?   

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Online Richard Smith

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3747 on: February 21, 2021, 03:56:00 PM »
Again, this is total b.s. and Richard says nothing about the corrupt right wing Republicans that run Texas who are responsible for the blackouts and failing Texans during a crisis. 

President Biden did more than he could to help the people in Texas. He started the federal disaster relief 5 days ago and they now have the aid coming today. That is a quick and fast response.

Criminal Donald refused to give any federal relief to the people in California who lost their homes and small businesses to the devastating wildfires that decimated their towns. That's a total lack of empathy and a criminal act to refuse aid to Americans because a state didn't vote for him. And Richard is whining that Biden "didn't act fast enough" when all the federal aid to Texas is already appropriated. Like I said, it's total b.s.       

Trump Administration Refuses To Give California Federal Aid For Wildfires
https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2020/10/16/trump-administration-refuses-to-give-california-federal-aid-for-wildfires/?sh=1ddaf1813416

President Biden approves Texas emergency declaration amid winter storm
KTRK  5 days ago

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/president-biden-approves-texas-emergency-declaration-amid-winter-storm/ar-BB1dGndW


BS:

AM radio is dominated by the far right.

Local NBC, CBS, ABC, affiliates are dominated by Sinclair Broadcasting that is far right.

Cable is dominated by Faux, NewsMax, and OAN.

New York Times and Washington Post have conservative writers. CNN has conservative pundits to spread the propaganda. All the right wing outlets is 24/7 right wing state run media.     

President Biden sent massive federal aid in record time and spent the week focusing on Criminal Donald's covid disaster and bringing back jobs.

America was dead last in everything the last 4 years. The only thing America was first in was covid deaths, infections, and job loss.   


Sinclair Broadcasting’s Naked Propaganda Has Direct Ties to the White House
The president came to the company’s defense Monday, since they’re a big cheerleader for him

https://www.gq.com/story/sinclair-white-house-ties

Sinclair, the pro-Trump, conservative company taking over local news, explained
Sinclair reaches 40 percent of households — and soon will reach 72 percent

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/3/17180020/sinclair-broadcast-group-conservative-trump-david-smith-local-news-tv-affiliate

Old Joe's many failures so far (and we are just getting started):

Virus deaths - 100K and counting under his administration despite the availability of the Trump vaccine
Rampant crime in our cities
Opening the borders to a flood of illegal immigrants
Plan to legalize 15-20 million illegal immigrants already in the US
US taxpayer funding of world abortions
No COVID stimulus relief
Botched federal assistance to US citizens in Texas
Reluctance to open schools despite the CDC (the "scientists") confirming that it is safe due to his spineless response to the teacher's union
Shutdown the Keystone pipeline resulting in the immediate loss of thousands of jobs, higher gas prices, and greater dependence on foreign oil

Offline John Tonkovich

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3748 on: February 21, 2021, 04:04:09 PM »
No, I support democracy.  Which we do not currently have.  Do you have $800 billion to run for senate in Georgia?  If not, then you are out of luck.  Who has $800 billion?  The paymasters who decide who gets elected.  Do you think Old Joe or any establishment politician can exercise independent judgment on issues when they take billions of dollars to get elected?
Simple Google search:  $ spent = 500 million. .6% ,approximately,  of " $800 billion.

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Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3749 on: February 21, 2021, 04:53:42 PM »
Simple Google search:  $ spent = 500 million. .6% ,approximately,  of " $800 billion.

It's a given by now that "Richard" will lie, misrepresent and exaggerate to make kind of bogus point

Offline Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3750 on: February 21, 2021, 04:55:21 PM »
Old Joe's many failures so far (and we are just getting started):

Virus deaths - 100K and counting under his administration despite the availability of the Trump vaccine
Rampant crime in our cities
Opening the borders to a flood of illegal immigrants
Plan to legalize 15-20 million illegal immigrants already in the US
US taxpayer funding of world abortions
No COVID stimulus relief
Botched federal assistance to US citizens in Texas
Reluctance to open schools despite the CDC (the "scientists") confirming that it is safe due to his spineless response to the teacher's union
Shutdown the Keystone pipeline resulting in the immediate loss of thousands of jobs, higher gas prices, and greater dependence on foreign oil

Thanks for the laugh.

Btw you forgot to mention that Biden didn't prevent the winter storms in Texas.

I mean, when you are making such an idiotic list, you really need to include that one as well, right?
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Offline John Iacoletti

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3751 on: February 22, 2021, 01:25:37 AM »
LOL.  Yes, I'm sure the people freezing to death haven't asked for any federal help.  They prefer to suffer and die.

No, but the people in charge in Texas think that Texan's are happy to freeze to death if it means less federal regulation.  Former Governor Goodhair:

https://www.businessinsider.com/rick-perry-says-texans-would-rather-blackouts-than-regulate-power-grid-2021-2

The whole reason we are in this mess is because Texas had to have it's own isolated electric grid to avoid federal regulations, and then it was mismanaged for the highest profitability.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3751 on: February 22, 2021, 01:25:37 AM »