Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Jon Banks]

RNC quietly deletes webpage touting Trump's call for U.S. troops to withdraw from Afghanistan

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/rnc-quietly-deletes-webpage-touting-trump-s-call-for-u-s-troops-to-withdraw-from-afghanistan/ar-AANo5Wg?ocid=msedgntp

Well, it appears that some information about Trump has disappeared down a memory hole.

I think if we had just stayed in Afghanistan another 20 years, the Afghanistan army would have been capable on holding on entirely on its own for two, perhaps three months. As it is, they were not able to stand very long.

It just goes to show that you never know how long an army will stand. No one knows, not even the members of the army know how long they will stand once the fighting starts. This is not the first time in history that a people were willing to fight much harder for tyranny than freedom, particularly since the “freedom” of Afghanistan was pretty corrupt.

Getting out was our best option. Should we have gone to Afghanistan in the first place? Well, unlike Iraq, they did attack us. Not directly but through proxies from that they protected.

I mostly agree but the Taliban didn't attack us on 9/11/01.

We should've focused on getting OBL and avoided the nation-building crap.

[Joe Elliott]

I mostly agree but the Taliban didn't attack us on 9/11/01.

We should've focused on getting OBL and avoided the nation-building crap.

Agreed. As soon as OBL was dead, it would have been a good time to pull out within a year.

Well, I guess we will wait for the other shoe to drop. Iraq. We should never have gone into there in 2002. After we redraw, how long will it hold out?

I should mention that nation-building does not always fail. It worked in Germany and Japan. Despite the recent past of the 1930’s and 1940’s, both countries had a history of democracy before the Nazis and the Japanese military took over. In Germany, first the Kaiser was able to stifle it, then Hitler really stifled it, but the desire for democracy was still there among millions, at least after dictatorships had so thoroughly failed. But any country without a strong desire for freedom and democracy among their people, forget it.

[Jon Banks]

Agreed. As soon as OBL was dead, it would have been a good time to pull out within a year.

Well, I guess we will wait for the other shoe to drop. Iraq. We should never have gone into there in 2002. After we redraw, how long will it hold out?

I should mention that nation-building does not always fail. It worked in Germany and Japan. Despite the recent past of the 1930’s and 1940’s, both countries had a history of democracy before the Nazis and the Japanese military took over. In Germany, first the Kaiser was able to stifle it, then Hitler really stifled it, but the desire for democracy was still there among millions, at least after dictatorships had so thoroughly failed. But any country without a strong desire for freedom and democracy among their people, forget it.

We did great with post-WWII Europe, Japan, and South Korea. But since the 1950s, the successful long-term military engagements have been few and far between.

Afghanistan is called "the graveyard of Empires" for a reason. Even the British failed there and their record for nation-building is much better than ours. 

[Joe Elliott]

Newly uncovered video delays Capitol rioter's sentencing

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/newly-uncovered-video-delays-capitol-rioter-s-sentencing/vi-AANvRXj?ocid=msedgntp

Hurrah for the ‘Sedition Hunters’. You guys rock!

[Rick Plant]

This scumbag criminal couldn't even go one day, especially on 9/11, without falsely attacking our President of the United States. He didn't even have the courage to stand with our President and former Presidents to mourn the 9/11 victims and the anniversary on this solemn day. Had to show up for some phony photo op for a few minutes. A total disgrace and the entire world is glad he is out of power. 

[Richard Smith]

This scumbag criminal couldn't even go one day, especially on 9/11, without falsely attacking our President of the United States. He didn't even have the courage to stand with our President and former Presidents to mourn the 9/11 victims and the anniversary on this solemn day. Had to show up for some phony photo op for a few minutes. A total disgrace and the entire world is glad he is out of power.

LOL.  Biden wasn't even allowed to speak because they were afraid he would be booed off the stage or forget where he was and start looking at his watch.   The military despises him for his weakness and incompetence.  No police officer, fire fighter, member of the military or families of those that died would allow their relatives to be disgraced by him.

[Rick Plant]

LOL.  Biden wasn't even allowed to speak because they were afraid he would be booed off the stage or forget where he was and start looking at his watch.   The military despises him for his weakness and incompetence.  No police officer, fire fighter, member of the military or families of those that died would allow their relatives to be disgraced by him.

None of this is true 

We already had 4 years of weakness with a loser that destroyed America and embarrassed us around the world. The greatest weakness is a "president" who is so he weak he has to salute a dictatorial General from an enemy country.