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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3892 on: March 22, 2021, 12:54:30 PM »
The United States was failing with vaccine doses under Criminal Donald which was well below what they tried to project. 1 million shots was never happening plus there was a vaccine shortage. Under President Biden, we now have 3 million shots per day and enough vaccine for ALL Americans. Right wingers were claiming 1 million shots wouldn't even happen, including the 100 million shots that Biden predicted we would have, and he already met that goal.   

US: Three million vaccine doses given for two straight days
https://www.rawstory.com/us-three-million-vaccine-doses-given-for-two-straight-days-2651167241/

100 million shots in arms: U.S. meets vaccination goal early
https://www.livescience.com/100-million-covid19-vaccinations-reached.html

Online Martin Weidmann

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3893 on: March 23, 2021, 02:16:41 AM »
Sidney Powell, running scared, has filed a motion to have the case of Dominion voting systems against her to be dismissed because..... wait for it......... "no reasonable person could actually believe the obvious lies she told about the company";

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

The dominos start falling.... I say; sue her for everything she's got!

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3894 on: March 23, 2021, 12:45:24 PM »
Sidney Powell, running scared, has filed a motion to have the case of Dominion voting systems against her to be dismissed because..... wait for it......... "no reasonable person could actually believe the obvious lies she told about the company";

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf

The dominos start falling.... I say; sue her for everything she's got!

Sidney Powell, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson and Sean Hannity are extremist demagogues and professional liars. In front of the MAGA cult, they’re “fearless defenders of the truth.” But before the courts they admit to being performance artists who "no reasonable person would believe".

Sidney Powell needs to be disbarred for admitting her entire election fraud scam was a lie in order to keep Criminal Donald in power. She helped stage a coup and incite a violent insurrection caused by Trump's violent right wing thugs. She should also go to jail as well for sedition.   

Sidney Powell Argues Her Dominion Defamation Lawsuit Be Tossed Because ‘No Reasonable Person’ Would Believe Her
https://www.forbes.com/sites/carlieporterfield/2021/03/22/sidney-powell-argues-her-dominion-defamation-lawsuit-should-be-dropped-because-no-reasonable-person-would-believe-her/?sh=1239b5291dad

'She just called Republicans and Trump supporters stupid': Americans fume over Sidney Powell's defense
https://www.rawstory.com/sidney-powell-republicans-trump/

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3895 on: March 24, 2021, 10:33:46 PM »
Sidney Powell, running scared, has filed a motion to have the case of Dominion voting systems against her to be dismissed because..... wait for it......... "no reasonable person could actually believe the obvious lies she told about the company";

https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/20519858/3-22-21-sidney-powell-defending-the-republic-motion-to-dismiss-dominion.pdf
 

Actually says-----
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3.The statements at issue are protected and not actionable Determining whether a statement is protected involves a two-step inquiry: Is the statement one which can be proved true or false? And would reasonable people conclude that the statement is one of fact, in light of its phrasing, context and the circumstances surrounding its publication. Keohane, 882 P.2d at 1299. This inquiry is determined as a matter of law. Bucher v. Roberts, 595 P.2d  235,  241  (Colo.  1979)  (“Whether  a  particular  statement  constitutes  fact  or  opinion  is  a  question of law.”). Analyzed under these factors, and even assuming, arguendo, that each of the statements  alleged  in  the  Complaint  could  be  proved  true  or  false,  no  reasonable  person  would conclude that the statements were truly statements of fact.
Machines don't cheat...people do.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3896 on: March 24, 2021, 11:45:05 PM »

Actually says-----Machines don't cheat...people do.

Please define "unreasonable people"......the true believers it seems.

Offline Jerry Freeman

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3897 on: March 25, 2021, 12:32:06 AM »
Please define "unreasonable people"......the true believers it seems.
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..what Dominion is pointing to is the fact that Ms. Powell was declaring that she had evidence of this fraud and this election malfeasance and she was declaring that as a matter of fact."
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/sidney-powell-bar-dominion/index.html

Statistically...there is a one in ten chance that the Dominion outfit will win that defamation lawsuit. What damage or irreparable hardship have they actually endured? This has to be proven to a jury.
 In Texas [where I live] a lawsuit [that does not involve punitive damages] means very little. The plaintiff can just say 'OK try and collect'. They cannot take your home ..they can't even take away your fishing pole.
Now if there is actual physical injury [punitive] that's another thing.
If I go online and say that Doctor Jones is a quack. Can Jones sue me? Or do I have a first amendment right to post that Jones is a quack?
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Truth is a defense to a defamation suit. This means that if the person being accused of defamation can prove that the statement he or she made is true, then the suit will be dismissed. There is no law against making truthful statements online, unless the action qualifies as an invasion of privacy.
Concerning non-punitive lawsuits---------
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-slow-demise-of-defama_b_758570

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3898 on: March 25, 2021, 12:41:07 AM »
https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/politics/sidney-powell-bar-dominion/index.html

Statistically...there is a one in ten chance that the Dominion outfit will win that defamation lawsuit. What damage or irreparable hardship have they actually endured? This has to be proven to a jury.
 In Texas [where I live] a lawsuit [that does not involve punitive damages] means very little. The plaintiff can just say 'OK try and collect'. They cannot take your home ..they can't even take away your fishing pole.
Now if there is actual physical injury [punitive] that's another thing.
If I go online and say that Doctor Jones is a quack. Can Jones sue me? Or do I have a first amendment right to post that Jones is a quack?Concerning non-punitive lawsuits---------
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/the-slow-demise-of-defama_b_758570

Nothing is decided on statistics....her defence is based on the notion that only unreasonable people would believe her. Says a lot. She is now claiming what she said was not true and she knowingly proceeded anyway. She is a lawyer? Really? She now cannot argue truth and because she knowing propagated untruths about the company as fact she now admits malice.