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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3885 on: March 13, 2021, 01:58:42 PM »
This should come as no surprise

Covid-19 death rates higher in states with GOP governors: Study
https://www.rawstory.com/rate/

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3886 on: March 13, 2021, 02:08:54 PM »
More corruption from the Trump Crime Family

Dog Rescue Charity Linked To Lara Trump Funneling Money Into Donald Trump’s Pocket: The Big Dog Ranch Rescue has spent as much as $1.9 million at his properties in recent years and is spending $225,000 more at Mar-a-Lago this weekend
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/lara-trump-mar-a-lago-dog-rescue-charity_n_604becaac5b636ed337a6886

Trump accountant will flip to save his sons from prison -- according to Michael Cohen
https://www.rawstory.com/allen-weisselberg-donald-trump-2651036197/

Trump blurted insults and showed off lewd photos at shivah for accountant’s mother
https://www.rawstory.com/allen-weisselberg-donald-trump/

President Joe Biden rips ‘trickle-down’ economics while taking victory lap on COVID relief bill
https://www.rawstory.com/trickle-down-economics/

US administers 100 million COVID shots: official data
https://www.rawstory.com/us-administers-100-million-shots-official-data/

'A wonderful day in America’: Biden, Dems take Rose Garden victory lap over $1.9T COVID relief bill
https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus/ny-covid-20210312-n26nskwcxndfta4oh3hcfaa2he-story.html

Dow climbs 290 points to close at another record, surging yields hit tech stocks again
https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/11/stock-market-open-to-close-news.html


Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3887 on: March 15, 2021, 02:04:52 AM »

Ohio County Rejects Dominion Voting Systems After Trump Supporters Balk
March 11, 2021

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/11/975935129/ohio-county-rejects-dominion-voting-systems-after-trump-supporters-balk

The most important asset of a Company selling vote counting machines is its reputation. It appears that the reputation of Dominion Voting Systems has been severely damaged by the repeated lies of Donald Trump. I doubt the company can stay in business. I hope they can successfully sue Trump and recover all the future potential profits they would have earned. But Trump is very good at avoiding penalties. He has all sorts of options, like declaring bankruptcy. In any case, if down the road Dominion does recoup some of its losses, it won’t help all the employees who I anticipate will have to be let go.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3888 on: March 16, 2021, 02:32:09 AM »

EXPLAINER: Why countries are halting the AstraZeneca shot

https://apnews.com/article/why-countries-stopping-astrazeneca-vaccine-shot-explained-82f4c89a76c21f287e3041b52b7a69f0

Most European nations have stopped giving out the AstraZeneca vaccine. Why?

Because AstraZeneca announced there is a problem with their vaccine? No.
Because the European Medicines Agency announced there is a problem with their vaccine? No.
Because the World Health Organization announced there is a problem with their vaccine? No.

Because politicians have made this decision against the advice of the experts? Yes. Why?

Because a few people, about one in 500,000, developed blood clots shortly after receiving the vaccine. Older people are the ones who are mostly getting the vaccine. Older people are the ones who tend to develop blood clots, that can lead the strokes. But the number of people getting blood clots are no greater than the number expected. This is not my opinion but the opinion of the experts with the European Medicines Agency and the World Health Organization.

Only if the number of people with blood clots forming in the days after the vaccination significantly exceed the number expected, should stopping the vaccines be considered, and only if the number of expected deaths from not the vaccine exceeds the increase in number of people who get strokes. In any case, the decisions should be based on the opinion of experts, not politicians reacting to reports of people getting blood clots.

The European politicians are making the same mistake Trump made. Not following the advice of their medical experts. They need to remember that people, particularly older people, will develop blood clots, have strokes, have heart attacks, get cancer, regardless whether they receive a vaccine or not. Only if there is a surge of cases, and the medical experts have to be the ones who make this determination, should action be taken.

People’s lives will be lost because of the slowdown in the vaccination. A greater lose of lives may result in the increase of people being reluctant to take a vaccine, ever. These political decisions are made to order for the Anti-vaxxers. Even after the AstraZeneca vaccines are resumed, as I assume, they will be, they will use this episode to get people to distrust the AstraZeneca vaccine, and all the other vaccines. They will claim the governments discovered that the vaccines are harmful, but powerful interests forced the government into reversing their decisions. In Europe, as well as America, we need as many people as possible to get vaccinated. This panic by the politicians is not going to help that goal.

For ordinary people: get the vaccination when it is available to you. At the very least, if there is a significant chance you will bulk, don’t make an appointment. Instead, cancel your appointment. Don’t be a last minute no show. You will take away a vaccination from someone who needs it and want it, although, probably, someone less in need will get to take it. But it is important to decide to take the vaccine, don’t listen to internet advice from some anti-vaxxer, stay away from those sites, and go get your vaccine.

For politicians, don’t make decisions not based on the advice of the medical experts. Trump is not the only one guilty of this sin. In 2020, Europe and the better leaders for dealing with the pandemic. In 2021, I suspect it is America.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2021, 02:34:58 AM by Joe Elliott »

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3889 on: March 16, 2021, 12:39:26 PM »
Ohio County Rejects Dominion Voting Systems After Trump Supporters Balk
March 11, 2021

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/11/975935129/ohio-county-rejects-dominion-voting-systems-after-trump-supporters-balk

The most important asset of a Company selling vote counting machines is its reputation. It appears that the reputation of Dominion Voting Systems has been severely damaged by the repeated lies of Donald Trump. I doubt the company can stay in business. I hope they can successfully sue Trump and recover all the future potential profits they would have earned. But Trump is very good at avoiding penalties. He has all sorts of options, like declaring bankruptcy. In any case, if down the road Dominion does recoup some of its losses, it won’t help all the employees who I anticipate will have to be let go.

Look for sales of Dominion pillows soon.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3890 on: March 16, 2021, 06:07:47 PM »

Congratulations to the Political Leaders of Europe. Halting the AstraZeneca vaccines, against the advice of the medical experts, you just gave the Anti-vaxxers the biggest shot in the arm they ever received. They can’t buy publicity like this. This is a gift that will just keep on giving. The European political leaders all should retire and move to Mar-a-Lago.

Offline Joe Elliott

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #3891 on: March 16, 2021, 06:14:17 PM »

There are now reports of people who did not receive an AstraZeneca vaccine on the day they developed blood clots. It appears that not taking this vaccine may cause blood clots. Most blood clots occur during periods when the victim had not recently received a vaccination. I already had one of two Moderna vaccinations, but I’m going to try to get the AstraZeneca vaccine so I don’t get any blood clots.
« Last Edit: March 16, 2021, 06:18:49 PM by Joe Elliott »