Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

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Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2135 on: October 21, 2020, 12:22:36 AM »
Another great day for President Trump.  Out on the campaign trail while Old Joe Hiden didn't leave his home except to buy ice cream.  The dems are in a panic spreading a baseless conspiracy narrative around the laptop that should end Hiden's career unless they can run the clock out before the election.  It is now confirmed that it was Hunter's computer.  His lawyer even asked for it to be returned which would be very strange if it didn't belong to him (apparently Hunter is not represented by Perry Mason).  The baseless claim that the Russians are behind this would be laughable if it were not actually scary that the media and even members of the government were out spreading this baseless claim like something in a dictatorship.  It is not limited just to social media kooks.

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Benedict Donald is losing badly. He's losing in every state he needs to win and is losing in his own red states. The fake Hunter Biden smear story is Russian disinformation and we all knew Rudy was going to peddle bogus conspiracy theories right before the election. This administration is a joke and they can't defend their disastrous record. It's just a replay of scams from 2016 and it's failing miserably.

14 Days and "Richard" won't be able to peddle his Russian disinformation. The only thugs in a panic are the GOP watching themselves lose in a massive landslide.


Hunter Biden story is Russian disinfo, dozens of former intel officials say

More than 50 former intelligence officials signed a letter casting doubt on the provenance of a New York Post story on the former vice president's son


https://www.politico.com/news/2020/10/19/hunter-biden-story-russian-disinfo-430276


Voters Prefer Biden Over Trump

A new New York Times/Siena College poll finds Joe Biden leading Donald Trump in the presidential race nationally, 50% to 41%.

“With just two weeks left in the campaign, Mr. Trump does not hold an edge on any of the most pressing issues at stake in the election, leaving him with little room for a political recovery absent a calamitous misstep by Mr. Biden, the Democratic nominee, in the coming days. The president has even lost his longstanding advantage on economic matters: Voters are now evenly split on whether they have more trust in him or Mr. Biden to manage the economy."


Iowa U.S. Senate Race Leans Democratic

Larry Sabato’s Crystal Ball moved the Iowa U.S. Senate race from Toss-up to Leans Democratic.


State Polls
GEORGIA: Biden 49%, Trump 45%
ARIZONA: Biden 47%, Trump 42%
OHIO: Biden 48%, Trump 47%
NORTH CAROLINA: Biden 50%, Trump 47%
FLORIDA: Biden 50%, Trump 44%
MICHIGAN: Biden 51%, Trump 41%
WISCONSIN: Biden 50%, Trump 40%
WASHINGTON:  Biden 60%, Trump 37%
VIRGINIA: Biden 52%, Trump 41%
COLORADO: Biden 54%, Trump 40%
NEW MEXICO: Biden 53%, Trump 39%
IOWA: Biden 49%, Trump 47%
PENNSYLVANIA: Biden 50%, Trump 44%
NEW JERSEY: Biden 56%, Trump 36%   
NEVADA: Biden: 50%, Trump 43%
CALIFORNIA: Biden 60%, Trump 32%
NEW YORK: Biden 61%, Trump 29%
ILLINOIS: Biden 53%, Trump 40%

Biden is right at 50% or well over 50% in all these states which is the magic number to win.

Trump is low to mid 40's where he's always been polling for 4 years.               

270 Electoral College Votes is the number to win the Presidency.

In order for Joe Biden to get the minimum 270 Electoral Votes needed all he needs to do is win Wisconsin, Michigan, and Arizona. And he's already well ahead in each state as early voting is already taking place. So, the polling reflective with the actual voting.

Polling Averages

WISCONSIN - Biden +10
MICHIGAN -   Biden +10
ARIZONA -     Biden + 5

Or Pennsylvania, Georgia, Florida will put Biden over the top and he's leading in these states too.

PENNSYLVANIA - Biden +6
FLORIDA - Biden +4
GEORGIA - Biden +3   
       

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2136 on: October 21, 2020, 02:47:37 AM »
From all the information that has been assembled I strongly suspect Trump was knowingly Covid positive at the time of the first debate.

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2137 on: October 21, 2020, 03:47:56 AM »
From all the information that has been assembled I strongly suspect Trump was knowingly Covid positive at the time of the first debate.
Certainly a possibility, Dr. Crow., that Trump was positive. His treatment suggests, strongly, he was infected over the previous weekend, as his Friday health downturn - oxygen, dexamethasone, hospitalization - is indicative of someone infected about 7 days earlier, likely at one of several White House super spreader events.
However, since Trump indicated a while back that he was being tested infrequently, " once every 2 to 3 days", he may well have not been tested after the weekend and before the debate. He also may have been experiencing some symptoms before the debate, but since the man lives in constant denial of reality, he probably shrugged it off.
Hubris: yes
Recklessness: yes
Knowledgeable: not so much

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2138 on: October 21, 2020, 05:25:48 AM »
Certainly a possibility, Dr. Crow., that Trump was positive. His treatment suggests, strongly, he was infected over the previous weekend, as his Friday health downturn - oxygen, dexamethasone, hospitalization - is indicative of someone infected about 7 days earlier, likely at one of several White House super spreader events.
However, since Trump indicated a while back that he was being tested infrequently, " once every 2 to 3 days", he may well have not been tested after the weekend and before the debate. He also may have been experiencing some symptoms before the debate, but since the man lives in constant denial of reality, he probably shrugged it off.
Hubris: yes
Recklessness: yes
Knowledgeable: not so much

Well, release of his test result details would end debate. I thought he arrived late for the event and they claimed he had recently tested negative employing the "honour system". I know using Trump and honour is rare, almost comical.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2139 on: October 21, 2020, 07:48:52 AM »
I smell......conspiracy?

Watched Joe's attempt to "run" off the stage the other day.

That looked beyond scary; certainly made my day!

You tell me, if Trump was diagnosed positive prior to the debate but was asymptomatic, would he have informed of the situation and quarantined? Or gone ahead regardless.

Offline Colin Crow

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2140 on: October 21, 2020, 10:11:20 AM »
I feel you're inviting me to speculate!

Of cause there's no way I could tell you what he would have done if.....

However, based on his very evasive reply (town hall) regarding his test results he might have skipped testing prior to the debate to avoid the dilemma you're suggesting and possibly perjuring himself further down the road.

And as I said until the testing records are released there is no way of knowing for sure.

Offline Rick Plant

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Re: Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2
« Reply #2141 on: October 21, 2020, 12:14:40 PM »
Mr. Projection Benedict Donald has a secret Chinese bank account and is OWNED by China. This corrupt fraud attacks Biden on China when he's the one guilty of being soft on China and taking money from them.   

Alleged China-Fighter Donald Trump Has Secret Chinese Bank Account

https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2020/10/trump-secret-chinese-bank-account-hunter-biden-tax-returns.html