Trump supporters and conspiracy theory - Part 2

[Rick Plant]

[John Tonkovich]

Hi John,
I believe when I looked that my country had initial cases from China around similar times to the US. Certainly we have large Chinese tertiary student populations and movements between our countries. Our population is essentially clustered in a handful of coastal cities. The governments, state and Federal acted relatively quickly and testing and contact tracing were a major early focus. We had similar issues to the US with resources (PPE and ventilators etc). There was some panic buying at various times that lasted for a week or so.

There were a few important mistakes, one involving a cruise ship, some quarantine problems that resulted in aged care fatalities and high levels of infections amongst various workers eg meat processing. But from what I could tell nothing like the size of the problem in US.

The citizens were essentially compliant with the government restrictions although now after the recent spike in Melbourne we had some crazies talking of hoax and protesting loss of "rights".

There is now relaxing of most state borders and a travel bubble is likely with NZ and other low risk countries. Also overseas students are likely to be arriving in the new year again.

I think we did better than most because we went hard and early. Early testing, hard restrictions and a generally compliant population to a consistent government message.

Thank you, Mr Crow.
Very informative, as always.

As to your government, looks like meeting the problem head on, instead of denying it for several months, as in US, was the most important element.
As to your citizenry, I have seen video of a few Aussie crazies; the police were quite professional, and patient, and seemed slightly amused, as they eventually arrested the idiots spouting antimask/hoax nonsense. Now imagine that sort of idiocy among 25%?,35%?, of the population, and you have a picture of United States' citizens.

As an aside, NY state cases are above 1000 per day, for the first time in more than a month. Not good, obviously. Schools are reopening,  Your thoughts?
Also, the vaccine news seems to be nothing but hype?
( Having lived through the 1976 swine flu fiasco - can we all say Guillain-Barre together? - the effects of rushing out a vaccine are horrific; first, for those severely injured, and second, for a total loss of trust in science and government.)

[Colin Crow]

Thank you, Mr Crow.
Very informative, as always.

As to your government, looks like meeting the problem head on, instead of denying it for several months, as in US, was the most important element.
As to your citizenry, I have seen video of a few Aussie crazies; the police were quite professional, and patient, and seemed slightly amused, as they eventually arrested the idiots spouting antimask/hoax nonsense. Now imagine that sort of idiocy among 25%?,35%?, of the population, and you have a picture of United States' citizens.

As an aside, NY state cases are above 1000 per day, for the first time in more than a month. Not good, obviously. Schools are reopening,  Your thoughts?
Also, the vaccine news seems to be nothing but hype?
( Having lived through the 1976 swine flu fiasco - can we all say Guillain-Barre together? - the effects of rushing out a vaccine are horrific; first, for those severely injured, and second, for a total loss of trust in science and government.)

Hey John,
I think we got good testing earlier than you guys. I think your "go it alone" with your test approach cost a month or so because it was defective. In that time you got widespread community infections. Whole different ball game then.

Our governments have largely been consistent, both left and right leaning, and that helps. Being a re-election year did not help you guys as politics got in the way.

Our state has had effectively zero cases for months and schools have been open. However I believe if we got a wave here, like 10 cases, they would shut down again. Melbourne’s wave has lasted a few months but they went up to 1000 a day or so and now back to 10 in that time. They had strict shutdown, it works. Interstate travel restrictions helped a lot.

However people here are pretty relaxed now and reacting to a second wave here would be a challenge.

As for vaccine, I believe Fauci knows what he is talking about. We will get one and it will help, herd immunity via infection is not an option. I don’t believe it will be unsafe as almost too late for election surprise. The scientists have yet to develop a vaccine for stupid .

By the way....

If you think you’ve had a bad day, spare a thought for Melania Trump who is trying to work out what half of -$421M is.

Cheers

[John Tonkovich]

Hey John,
I think we got good testing earlier than you guys. I think your "go it alone" with your test approach cost a month or so because it was defective. In that time you got widespread community infections. Whole different ball game then.

Our governments have largely been consistent, both left and right leaning, and that helps. Being a re-election year did not help you guys as politics got in the way.

Our state has had effectively zero cases for months and schools have been open. However I believe if we got a wave here, like 10 cases, they would shut down again. Melbourne’s wave has lasted a few months but they went up to 1000 a day or so and now back to 10 in that time. They had strict shutdown, it works. Interstate travel restrictions helped a lot.

However people here are pretty relaxed now and reacting to a second wave here would be a challenge.

As for vaccine, I believe Fauci knows what he is talking about. We will get one and it will help, herd immunity via infection is not an option. I don’t believe it will be unsafe as almost too late for election surprise. The scientists have yet to develop a vaccine for stupid .

By the way....

If you think you’ve had a bad day, spare a thought for Melania Trump who is trying to work out what half of -$421M is.

Cheers

Ha!  
As the Brits say, I think  you're " having a laugh".
And, sadly, there is no vaccine for stupid.

[Robert Reeves]

Ever get the feeling you been had?



USA is a joke

[Rick Plant]

Biden crushed Benedict Donald in the first debate. Donald refused to condemn White Supremacy and called out to his white supremacist Proud Boys to "stand by" for violence.     

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/29/politics/donald-trump-joe-biden-debate-poll/index.html

[Colin Crow]

After watching Donald's performance the grandkid's most outrageous behaviour suddenly looks more acceptable.

Trump's performance had all the characteristics of explosive dysentery.